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Absolutely!!!

PR is all about managing expectations. Using vague terms such as "open", "transparency", "unlike" and, most of all, "soon" is more about mismanaging.

I guess they try to act like a corporation - after all, they do come from Nokia and must have learned their business there - and being a corporation involves using a lot of buzzwords. But they must have forgotten what clientelle they are up against. Not marketing people who are used to BS but the kind of people to whom those words are real words with a real meaning.

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Well, I tried my best to actually help that guy understand. Maybe it's feeding the troll, but maybe my "summary" can actually be helpful.

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Now they provided us with info exact what happens this week. That maybe good or bad.

I really hope everything going well. However I will not be surprised if they get problems that may postpone shipping to the developers.

I personally think it's to optimistic to think everything in production test/prebuild goes well in four days.

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could be:

http://www.ti.com/product/sn65dsi86

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Have to agree here, this is a great update. Our Jolla tablets are almost here, and even closer for those lucky few.

I can see why they have kept quiet about the screen issues until know. Yes more frequent updates would have been nice but then every other post would have been "we are changing the display again" and "now we have to change the PCB because the new screen won't fit". I think I would prefer the silence.

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Dammit, I don't say a word for 3 months, and the day I do, they release the data the next day ! It's like to show me how I am impatient, and couldn't wait another day ;)

Also, I love how they get from almost nothing to a day by day schedule :D.

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How could you say its almost here, it's more vague than ever. Its not. its probobly more than a month way and anything could happen on they way...like delays. Back in april jolla was Said they Where working on shipment details...Then nothing, screen issue, Then silence...so its not ready until you got our tacking codes. :D

Great update? Update was not great. Whats great is that they are answering questions...the rest is just nonsense...or business...what ever you prefer. And that they fixed the screen. But update from April still missing details from screen issue...So it's good that carol finally hunting down the blog post...or info.

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100% agree here.

100% agree here too.

Dear lord man... I can't agree any more. But here... take my agreement anyway.

Of course, but I've rarely seen this level of openness in regards to obstacles in production in ages. Bravo Jolla; my patience has paid off.

But it's more definite than your guesses, assumptions and whimsical flights of fancy. I can't say that a delay makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside; however when it's explained in words that make sense to me.

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given the history of my guestimations ,and the history off jolla updates I would say they are all hit and miss. and consider that Im not responsibe for 2.6m crowedfunding Champaign. so leave me out of the equation when evelute jollas updates. add to that the nuture of the latest blog post in its own. its thin at most. and remove the Q&A and it should be completely empty.

Look, i dont hack and slices jollas updates overall. this is just a rateting of the last one and a to me... updates is never bed, so its not completely useless, it just worse than previous ones. or better depends on how distinct information you are requires.

yep, thats it.

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That's better, FTFY

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approximately 63 days to deliver. Countup is back on track...after a few posts that seems to be off topic :D

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thanks for the summary.

Regarding the display these guys did remember the N9 it seems.

Never had any problem with 7 or was it 8 N900 USB ports but my eyes could not handle the pentile matrix display quality of the otherwise promising N9.
A couple of yellowish spots on a high res tablet screen might have been easier to coop with but nevertheless, I like the way Jolla is holding back the release to get it right regardless earlier promises by their hardware parts supplier.

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https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-hardware-update/

Please read this again before writing in this thread. ;) Thanks jolla. No speculation is allowed. only countups.

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There are couple reasons why it might not have been possible. Considering that pre-production batch is going into manufacturing, there has been open ends which would have left much to speculate. In that case we all know what kind of s***storm it would have started, first with questions "when", "why not tell everything" and finally the classical "there is no openness"-phrase. So, it was sensible to wait until issues with the display was sorted out for sure before publishing information about the hassle. Unfortunately patience is not a virtue in community, so there will always be these complaints. That's why I have been questioning the idea of being open about the development of devices for some time now as it seems to do more harm than good sometimes (effectively meaning, it can only work when things go smoothly, but deteriorates instantly on tiniest snag).

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hope the tablet show up eventually Do no longer believe its useful or fun to be here. might check in to off-topic once in a wile. GL HF.

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No fun allowed dave, you should know this :cool:

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Up to Dave, he's more than welcome to contribute to Jolla Tablet speculation, but it gets tiresome speculating upon speculation, so understandably he wants a break.
Lets wait until the next big block of solid/official info. comes out, then Dave/we can have another speculation party (i.e. wave of speculation posts).

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This probably isn't all that interesting, but it seems that some tablet-oriented documentation is making it's way into the Jolla Support system. There's now a page on "how to copy contacts between two Jolla devices", in this case being the phone and the tablet:

https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a...Jolla-devices-

(You may need to set up a Jolla support account to access this page.)

EDIT: Random fact: the original screenshots pulled from the web page are indeed 2048x1536 pixels in size. :)

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I wonder when/if they will implement my [Request] [Jolla Tablet] [Idea] Jolla tablet <-> Jolla smartphone pairing/communication idea. :-) It has over 200 votes and has the roadmap tag.

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(Currently) last comment, posted this morning:
https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-hardware-update/

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New post to blog:
https://blog.jolla.com/first-batch-o...ets-completed/

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This is getting exciting!

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So now we got the tablet model number: JT-1501

Good work Sage & fellow sailors!

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Dave999, are you really getting a loan device?

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In the meantime, any good recommendation for sleeve and stand other than the one from mapbagrag and latucase

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Just posting copy from email received today:

"We are now ramping up for mass production and general shipments of Jolla Tablets to all of you! This is estimated to take about 3-5 weeks before delivery begins in the order of your Indiegogo contributions. You will be contacted before shipping starts to confirm your delivery address, pay taxes and customs (where applicable), pay for shipping (if you haven't) and more."

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Any idea where to check what is my contributors number?

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That should have be on your original igg payment invoice. However there is no way for us to know where we come in a list of actual tablet buyers from that, as most of the contributions were a mix of token well wishers, shipping and additional perks.

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New update https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-...vices-shipped/

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Tabletmonkeys.com posted the or better "a" User Manual.
I hope they just messed up the icons and screenshots and we do not see "Play Music" preinstalled :p

And some pictures from the inside in this article about Jolla Tablet filing with the FCC.

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Wow, I really hope they get a chance to run that user manual past a native English speaker before they start sending out the tablets... :(

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Tabletmonkeys seem to have messed up and posted the manual of a chinese mockup according to comments on FB. Lets see how this developes...

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The screenshots in the pdf are from an Android device. I wonder if the ODM is also releasing the tablet with Android pre-installed.

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Ok, the article is a whole lot of crap... sorry if i sparked expectations or mislead someone. Seems like Tabletmonkeys made up most of that article from googling after the FCC ID and JT-1501...

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I hope you are correct! The article says that the Jolla Tablet (JT-1501) is a Android based tablet with Sailfish OS on top of that! Ouch!

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Funny is also the FCC part with the SAR value of 1.6, so it should have not been to hard to fulfill Dave999's need for 3G ;)

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I have to say I find it very disappointing that Jolla made the recipients of developer devices sign an NDA for the software as well as the hardware.

Again, everything behind closed doors with not even a semblance of openess.

The hardware I understand, as the device still isn't on sale, but SF2.0? It's already months past original launch window ... if they'd shipped developer units immediately after MWC in Barcelona, there may have been some case for it. Now? Is it really so far off production ready with less than a month left until the (significantly delayed) launch that they need to throw a rug over it?

Need I mention again that they still haven't produced any significant video (or stills) of SF2.0 ... the most we've seen of it is still handheld JerkyCam(TM) video of it at the beginning of March, 5 months ago. The PR launch video they showed a few weeks ago showed less than the original Indiegogo concept videos / sketches.

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Are you crazy??? :) Mosen just posted a link to a site that got some weird pre-production version of the tablet, and they totally panned it. It'd be even worse if they received a valid pre-production version of the tablet. People take one look at these reviews, form a lasting impression of the product, and walk away never to return.

If you want to document your development process, that's great. But if you want to market a successful product in the modern world, you don't let anyone actually see it until after you've created a polished, relatively bug-free version.

EDIT: Ok, yeah, you're talking about the software here. My bad. :) But still, I give Jolla a pass here, as they've kind of tied Sailfish 2.0 and the tablet together, so I would imagine they want to increase the impact by releasing both together... ;)

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Like I explicitly stated. SOFTWARE.

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I heard that: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.3.95.php

will release as stable version before Jolla tablet and SFOS 2.0 is released