maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   General (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7)
-   -   Nokia Plan B (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69892)

hawk 2011-02-16 15:37

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 947968)
Not quite, facepalm (or is it facetime?) is a video calling app that only works with other iphones, it's not compatible with 3g video calls. But yeah, all iphones' innovative new features were mostly already standard features on other phones. That's why MS decided to make WP7 the same way, every few months/years they could add a feature or two and declare with great fanfare that they are "innovating".

It only works for apple, that same move will not work for microsoft. Since microsoft doesn't have the same cult following the messiah that is steve jobs.

Microsoft tried this with copy/paste on their WP7, they got insulted for it. When apple did it, their following would go "why do we need copy/paste for? not important".

zimon 2011-02-16 15:38

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
PlanA with WP7 is a disaster.
http://whtc.com/news/articles/2011/f...closed-system/
Quote:

Operators such as Orange, Europe's fourth-largest in terms of revenue and part of France Telecom, carry great power in shaping consumer phone choices because they buy the phones from the makers and decide how heavily to subsidies them.

"We want a mobile ecosystem that is open and allows our clients to use all the services they want, not closed systems that benefit one company or another," Jean-Paul Cottet, Orange's chief of marketing and innovation, said.

gerbick 2011-02-16 15:46

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 947960)
Given the context and all this 3 horse race business, I would say iOS and Android are the other 2 horses.

Given how this forum treats Android and iOS - they shun them both - then I don't get your point.

I mean, sure... WP7 isn't the greatest thing out there. But as it stands, to compare it to other vilified OS's... surprises me. Thought you were doing the MeeGo/Maemo comparison, that would have explained your vitriol.

Almost paints iOS and Android in a positive light the way you've explained yourself.

Oh... at the time of this post, NOK is at 9.11 (+0.04).

rm42 2011-02-16 16:08

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Is there a plan that includes firing Elop and appointing Juhani Risku in its place?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07...nifesto_risku/

xerxes2 2011-02-16 16:11

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 948097)
Is there a plan that includes firing Elop and appointing Juhani Risku in its place?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07...nifesto_risku/

I really hoped there was but that article is old. I think Elop will get the boot eventually though when everyone else at Nokia realises what crap WP7 is.

GeraldKo 2011-02-16 17:40

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 948064)
PlanA with WP7 is a disaster.
http://whtc.com/news/articles/2011/f...closed-system/

Operators such as Orange, Europe's fourth-largest in terms of revenue and part of France Telecom, carry great power in shaping consumer phone choices because they buy the phones from the makers and decide how heavily to subsidies them.

"We want a mobile ecosystem that is open and allows our clients to use all the services they want, not closed systems that benefit one company or another," Jean-Paul Cottet, Orange's chief of marketing and innovation, said.

Plan A not exactly a hit with America's (US) biggest telecom either:

Quote:

“I do want a strong third OS out there,” Melone said. “It gives the carriers more flexibility and balances the interests of all the parties. But I still have doubts whether Microsoft will get the traction they are hoping for with Windows Phone 7… I don’t think Verizon needs the Nokia and Microsoft relationship,” he said. “Right now the three OS players we see for our network are Android, Apple, and RIM.
Gizmodo: Verizon CTO Doesn’t Need No Stinkin WP7

CNet: Microsoft's ecosystem is a tough sell to Verizon

TheLongshot 2011-02-16 20:17

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gruik (Post 947842)

Not only over, but a hoax.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/16/n...ax-all-along/#

GeraldKo 2011-02-16 20:35

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLongshot (Post 948325)

Let's just hope the same can be said of Plan A, too! :)

rm42 2011-02-16 20:52

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLongshot (Post 948325)

Oh no. That was the only thing keeping the stock from sinking even deepeeeeeeeeer.

maxximuscool 2011-02-16 21:29

Re: Nokia Plan B
 
Steve Ballmer is a cancer within the technology world, curse you for saying linux a cancer. Linux has not been changing ever since how could it be a cancer?


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:38.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8