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sjgadsby 2011-05-12 18:28
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richwhite (Post 1004969)
According to zehjotkah, we'll be able to upgrade to full MeeGo if we want to. It won't be a community effort because MeeGo will continue to be developed. Ovi Maps may be an exception, but so what? If we get a decent version of it with turn by turn navigation, not many people will mind sticking with that.
This isn't new information zehjotkah is presenting. Nokia employees have been saying all along that (unlocked versions of) the Harmattan device will have a developer mode that allows for the flashing of the fully open version of MeeGo from MeeGo.com.

In doing so though, you'd be giving up the ability to install and use any applications that require DRM. Indications are that the Ovi Store will no longer be a viable source of software for you, and proprietary Nokia applications such as Ovi Maps will likely be off-limits also.

Plus, this trip is one way. Once you switch your Harmattan device into "developer mode" to install MeeGo.com Meego, there's no way of switching back into closed, proprietary software-loving, DRM mode.

richwhite 2011-05-12 18:35
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
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Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 1005064)
I'm basing it on my experience with Nokia.
Or in other words, your experience is Nokia doesn't satisfy your needs. So why get another Nokia device?

mikecomputing 2011-05-12 19:02
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 1005031)
Yet another Harmattan device rumour thread. :D Ok I reiterate my whishes once again:

1ghz single-core Armv7, TI Omap will do fine.
4" OLED
Hardware keyboard

That's it. If the first device will not have a hardware keyboard I really think Nokia should make another one with, like N8 and E7.
I want NFC support but if HW is from 2010 I guess it will not have :-(

tissot 2011-05-12 19:26
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Not directly related to RM-680 but i'm not going to open new thread just for this.
Some not before seen Nokia phone in a trailer for movie called Real Steal.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/37323/...l-trailer.html
http://nokiagadgets.com/?p=815

http://images.fonearena.com/blog/wp-...el-Nokiars.jpg

Like mentioned on Nokiagadgets the top bar got some Maemo feel on it.

mikecomputing 2011-05-12 19:29
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1005074)
This isn't new information zehjotkah is presenting. Nokia employees have been saying all along that (unlocked versions of) the Harmattan device will have a developer mode that allows for the flashing of the fully open version of MeeGo from MeeGo.com.

In doing so though, you'd be giving up the ability to install and use any applications that require DRM. Indications are that the Ovi Store will no longer be a viable source of software for you, and proprietary Nokia applications such as Ovi Maps will likely be off-limits also.

Plus, this trip is one way. Once you switch your Harmattan device into "developer mode" to install MeeGo.com Meego, there's no way of switching back into closed, proprietary software-loving, DRM mode.
Well are u saying thats BAD :-D

Personally I dont mind if DRM apps will not work.

Real Linux users doesnt want to use that kind of crap anyway.

But I guess many here is comming from a world full of garbage apps and closed ****. Hint: WINDOWS!

The Wizard of Huz 2011-05-12 19:47
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1005074)
This isn't new information zehjotkah is presenting. Nokia employees have been saying all along that (unlocked versions of) the Harmattan device will have a developer mode that allows for the flashing of the fully open version of MeeGo from MeeGo.com.

In doing so though, you'd be giving up the ability to install and use any applications that require DRM. Indications are that the Ovi Store will no longer be a viable source of software for you, and proprietary Nokia applications such as Ovi Maps will likely be off-limits also.

Plus, this trip is one way. Once you switch your Harmattan device into "developer mode" to install MeeGo.com Meego, there's no way of switching back into closed, proprietary software-loving, DRM mode.
Well it sucks that it is not flashable to the Harmattan state. What if you just want to try out meego?

I am sure (hope) the community will find out a way to do it.

Since I bought the N900 and started reading this TMO I appreciated the open source community more and more. Now I always want a device with wich I can do whatever I want. Don't want to be a slave to the manufacturer. I pay for it and I want to decide what I am going to do with it.

sevla 2011-05-12 19:51
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1005116)
Well are u saying thats BAD :-D

Personally I dont mind if DRM apps will not work.

Real Linux users doesnt want to use that kind of crap anyway.

But I guess many here is comming from a world full of garbage apps and closed ****. Hint: WINDOWS!
Professional development firms will be releasing their (paid) apps with drm. So yes, you could be missing out on quality apps sans drm.

TheLongshot 2011-05-12 19:56
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 1005037)
The sad reality is that the N950 will likely have single core, not because Nokia thinks it is the right blend of performance / power usage but because Nokia management has no faith in MeeGo so they will only spend the minimum required to get the platform up and running. Maybe the only chance the N950 has to succeed is through software.
Reality? To be honest, neither you or me really know what the goal of them releasing the "N950" (or whatever they decide to call it), so making such comments are premature.

mikecomputing 2011-05-12 20:00
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
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Originally Posted by sevla (Post 1005125)
Professional development firms will be releasing their (paid) apps with drm. So yes, you could be missing out on quality apps sans drm.
Well so what? Same goes for Android and IOS if you root/jailbreak them?

You cant expect ANY company to release both and fully open device at the same time expect them to have closed apps on it. You have too choose.

"Open or closed" simple is that.

Thats how bussines works. Same goes for Android and IOS.

sjgadsby 2011-05-12 20:48
Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1005116)
Well are u saying thats BAD
I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying that if the information presented thus far turns out to be true, then switching to "developer mode" on a Harmattan devices will be a more lasting choice than we've had with Maemo devices.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Wizard of Huz (Post 1005123)
Well it sucks that it is not flashable to the Harmattan state. What if you just want to try out meego?
Buy two!


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