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1097 may have resurfaced then.

The next time this happens--if you're using an N800--pop out the camera. That can unlock the display. Additionally, retrying the unlock sequence after allowing the display to fade to black has worked for me in the past and may be worth attempting.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Updated map can be installed from http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com...lo/user/m/map/ also for chinook.

Installed map_2.2.8.421-1_armel.deb on my N800 with chinook and it seems to work. Only difference that I can see is that Wayfinder changed their logo. There could be something else too but I don't have the license.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Really? That works in Chinook? Is the Map data itself any more recent?

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Map data is downloaded independently of the map software. There is a download tool inside the map gui.

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...from which I'd be very surprised if getting maps through got you updated maps from just using a newer version of the package.

It's possible. Just not very likely, IMHO.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

I tried to browse quicky through the +600 posts in this thread... The name is " What do we know about Diablo?" but I still have absolutely no idea of what you guys know!!

Is there a simple summary of the changes/new features somewhere? I'm just curious -- thx

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Not really; I suppose it could go in the wiki, but imho skimming 600 posts isn't all that hard; I've done it on other topics...

Besides, I'm not inclined to go to the trouble of organizing and wikifying whatever knowledge I have, when I know the utility of that work will vanish in ~a month.

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There's another difference: they left some debuging messages that I don't remember being there in the previous version (maybe they aren't new, but I didn't notice them before).
The messages seems to imply the thing is running java....

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

well, I'm just asking for a short summary with confirmed info, for the non-hacker

Faster? A-GPS? New browser? New UI? Can I use OS2008 software? big changes in the distro? VOIP+video? New cool features? etc.

I guess someone, somewhere wrote a little preview on his blog :p

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Mmm, found this. Is that all?

http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1171

* A change in the email client from the current one to a version code-named Modest
* Tweaks to the microB web browser. However, the rendering engine will still remain the same as Firefox 3 Alpha 1, just as the current version has
* An improved network switcher that will facilitate handing off connections from Wi-Fi to WiMax and vice versa
* Improvements in the finger-UI performance and launching
* A several enhancements to system libraries to improve performance and speed.

Diablo will run almost all of the same programs as the current operating system (OS2008, code named Chinook). However, there will be different repositories for those that choose not to update to Diablo in order to minimize confusion about application compatibility.

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Yes, that is probably all for now + A-GPS and newer/faster Flash.

The version described there is the first leaked weeks ago. Every week there's an update with some changes.

You can't have binary compatible version and big changes at the same time.

EDIT: Let's no forget the SSU.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

what is known about final release? when? when it is done?

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

The answer is, as always, when it's ready.

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How to upgrade flash on chinook

1.- download adobe-flashplayer_2.51-1_armel.deb from diablo repo ( need password... )
2.- dpkg -x adobe-flashplayer_2.51-1_armel.deb .
3.- copy llibflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/browser/plugins/
4.- make symlink libssl.so.0.9.8 -> libssl.so.0.9.7 and libcrypto.so.0.9.8 -> libcrypto.so.0.9.7 on /usr/lib/

Enjoy the new flash player!!!

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

now... a question :) how i fix this?

Nokia-N800-50-2:~# osso-product-info
OSSO_PRODUCT_HARDWARE='RX-34'
OSSO_PRODUCT_NAME='N800'
OSSO_PRODUCT_FULL_NAME='Nokia N800 Internet Tablet'
cal_read_block(sw-release-ver): size zero, block not found?
Error getting variable value
OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_NAME='<unknown>'
cal_read_block(sw-release-ver): size zero, block not found?
Error getting variable value
OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_FULL_NAME='<unknown>'
cal_read_block(sw-release-ver): size zero, block not found?
Error getting variable value
OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION='<unknown>'
OSSO_PRODUCT_WLAN_CHANNEL='FCC/US'
Error getting variable value
OSSO_PRODUCT_KEYBOARD='<unknown>'
OSSO_PRODUCT_REGION='USA'
OSSO_PRODUCT_SHORT_NAME='Nokia N800'

thanks :)

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Hmm, my N810 died after my second reboot (I had installed rtcom, but I don't think it got to the stage where that should matter).

Basically I was seeing the white screen and blue Nokia symbol, and it just sat there, and eventually the backlight went off and the screen faded away. Tried a few times, no change, flashed back to Chinook (and thinking about doing it all again :(

Hmm, perhaps this should be in the bug thread?

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Your CAL is corrupted. It's a common problem and I thought a reflash was the only fix. Check my What is CAL thread for a fix I posted.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Sounds easy and all but how does one either find the password or find a kind soul who has the updated flash .deb?

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

The path to the password's pretty well pointed out in this thread; no one's gonna be more specific than they have, because it's being treated as a knowledge barrier to prevent noobs installing pre-releas beta junk that they don't know how to deal with.

For getting just the deb, the people with Diablo make themselves pretty obvious in the Diablo threads; you might PM one of them... at least half of them are kind souls, I'd guess.

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The only difference I can see is that now the Maps show a kind of "version" next to them (in the list of available maps).

Italy and UK-Ireland show TA2006.07 (thus they are almost 2 years old?).
USA East and West show "TA2006.10" .. uhm.. valid from 2006 to 2010 ? or simply map updated in 2006 subversion 07 and 10.

Otehr Map just say "Q2-2006" (South Africa), others "2006.2" or "2007."

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

do any of the .xx numbers go beyond 12? if not, then it could be a year.month combo...

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Just those numbers.. they might well be months.. fact is, year is as late as 2006!!!
What people are paying for ? Outdated maps ?

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

what one is paying for is on the go route calculation iirc...

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You know what gets me? That Nokia password protects their development repository. This is open source, people. I could see if they password-protected their nonfree stuff in another repo, but this stuff is and should be freely availalable. If they pAssword ProTected it because they want to be secretive about it, then they should have kept the repo off of their public repository site in plain siGht. Nokia, I work with your EnTerprise security products and my number one complaint is your convolusion of access to code that should be freely available to your customers or whoever else wants it. It is, after all, GPL/Berkley licensed, depending on the version of IPSO you are speaking about. And don't even get me started on your versioning of IPSO. Talk about a mess.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

I totally agre with you Mutiny32

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Well, the sources are 100% available, it's just the binaries that they're holding back. Part of that is that you can't easily upgrade just the open source parts without causing some issues with the non-open source parts.

The password protection has more to do with keeping users away from beta-level stuff that might reflect poorly on Nokia than anything else, I'd say.

So, really, while I agree with you that development on ITOS should be done more in the open (and beta testing of unreleased versions should be a part of this), there is logic to their motivation.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

I wholeheartedly agree with you, GeneralAntilles. what I am suggesting is that the dev team out there in Espoo should have more transparency with the power-user community. You don't see Canoniacal locking up the repos for Ubuntu, but they give a very clear and stern warning about the consequences of using them. If they wanted to be smart about it, they would have made the repos available on another path not viewable to the public and used individual username and password combos.

Nevertheless, there are plenty of nokia devs and reps on this board who could have just said "this will probably break your device unless you are Linus Torvalds, and even then, we have our propreitary components in this thing that even he couldn't help"

And speaking of propreitary components, the specs for these should be freely avaiable also. Point-in-case, broadcom and their unwillingness to have anything to do with open source. Sure, they fought the fight that weakened Qualcomm's monopoly on CDMA technology and it seemed like they were fighting for the little guy, but as it stands, they are now stifling development of the technology because they forced Qualcomm to stop using and developing for existing chipsets out there in public, like any MSM7x00 based device. There are not any ati drivers for the integrated Imageon chipsets.

To a lesser extent, these undocumented components in Nokia's tablets are stifling development of other OSes for the tablets. New MIDs are coming hard and fast based on Android and Mobile Ubuntu without these caveats you can be sure.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

I've got just a few quick questions:

I'm planning on flashing my n800 to something, say, more recent than OS2007...
Should I hold out for Diablo or should I just go with Chinook?
Will I have to reflash when Diablo comes out, or is it going to be an "apt-get Diablo" sort of thing?

My next question is: should I just flash to Chinook and then upgrade to Diablo (since I know the password now :) ) , or should I hold out for a little while longer?

Last question: if I do upgrade to Diablo, what's the best mplayer version to use? I've heard a lot about which is the best, and I'm just wondering from those who've got Diablo installed already which mplayer version they've got installed.

Thanks in advance!

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

It'll likely be a reflash. Although you'll almost certainly be able to upgrade you Chinook install to it, it wont be the recommended method, as clingers like osso-email will likely get in the way.

This is what I would do, but I like tinkering. At the very least, it would be an effective crash-course towards learning a bit more about maemo.

Same one you use for Chinook, Diablo didn't upgrade anything media-library related.

Either way, I would definitely at least flash Chinook to get yourself out from under Bora asap. ;)

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

@thecubed: Be prepared to fail though ;)

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Bundyo a.k.a Mr Optimistic :P (joke)

Hehe, joking. But IMHO, I'd just flash to Chinook. Much much less headachey.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

If you were him or yourself? :)

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

this is a great thread, and takes in some very interesting and multi-layered points.

but to get back to the actual topic though, there's enough people running diablo know to give some definitive answers - what are the actual main feature and performance improvements that users waiting for the official release can expect? Does the actual look and feel of the OS differ greatly? Which tweaks still work (rotation, usb otg for 800 etc)?

cheers
David

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

qwerty's sig two posts up answered this, though it's a little long, so I can understand if you're waiting for the movie. Therefore: yes.

It's not a major version upgrade, so it's mostly minor revisions and bug fixes. Flash is slightly improved. MicroB has a background process that lets individual browser windows crash without taking down the others. Modest replaces the old email client. What's now beta RTCOMM becomes standard. Some GPS and other bugs are squashed. A few new bugs are likely added, just to keep Karel's world from imploding. Smaller, hopefully more frequent, updates via Application Manager replace flashing as the standard way of getting subsequent upgrades.

No.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Which brings in some very new and exciting bugs :)

Yesterday the modest new mail notification brought down my tablet in only a few hours (i wasn't awake to witness it, but what could possibly end its life for 6 hours in standby right after i got it disconnected from the power (i saw a new message was in my mailbox in the morning).

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Exciting? They piss me off :P :)

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Does Nokia have any plans to update the bluez in the diablo final from 3.28 to 3.32?

Things changed:
20.05.2008
Release of bluez-libs-3.32 and bluez-utils-3.32
This release fixes some bugs in the input and audio support and removes more obsolete code. The Bluetooth helper library also got more client and server support.
06.05.2008
Release of bluez-libs-3.31 and bluez-utils-3.31
This release fixes various bugs from the plugin transition and introduces the first attempts of creating a Bluetooth helper library for GLib.
03.04.2008
Release of bluez-libs-3.30 and bluez-utils-3.30
This release fixes a regression within the D-Bus API and converts all services into plugins now.
22.03.2008
Release of bluez-libs-3.29 and bluez-utils-3.29
This release fixes an alignment issue in the SDP server and introduces the new D-Bus API. It marks the start of the preparation for the 4.x generation of BlueZ.
05.03.2008
Release of bluez-libs-3.28 and bluez-utils-3.28 (the version in diablo currently)
This release fixes some additional issues with the audio service and adds more SBC optimizations.

If Nokia won't update it, I could make a patch based on the osso versions.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

I just hope that it fixes the bluetooh keyboard disconnect issue. I literaly have reset my N800 several times a day so my bluetooh KEYBOARD will maintain a connection.

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 

Thanks for the hints, guy's. Just figured it out. :)

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Dude, that's not right. It shouldn't be doing that.