maemo.org - Talk - Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

hstende: Perhaps I should upload my Ubuntu karmic image file for people to try out. If OpenOffice 3.2 is a lot faster or better than the 3.1 version we've got in Easy Debian, I should maybe make it available for everyone...

I would love to see this happening.
Also, I keep having problems fetching some packages... (EG: libc-dev-bin_2.10.2-2_armel.deb and no, updating the package list didn't solved anything)
I guess that switching to ubuntu would also save me tons of time figuring out about those "broken" repos

rebhana

2010-03-03 16:51

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 553245)

Not a good idea to remove the openoffice GTK package, it removes some nice features like tap-and-hold right-click.

I had already tried out the effect of removing openoffice.org-gtk, because I thought I would anyway be able to reinstall, but now found that only the old 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny3 exists for armel. Neither squeeze nor sid seem to support the armel architecture for openoffice at all!?

qole	2010-03-03 18:23

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Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 554296)

Neither squeeze nor sid seem to support the armel architecture for openoffice at all!?

...correct! The Debian team can't get newer versions of OpenOffice to compile for them, so they've pulled them from their repositories. The Ubuntu team has the same problem, incidentally, but they get around it by taking a binary bit from the old OpenOffice and slipping it into the new version.

rebhana

2010-03-03 20:00

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qole, does the openoffice.org-gtk 1:3.1.1-8 armel package exist somewhere on the web, or would I have to go back to the pristine v3b image if I wanted it back?

mail_e36

2010-03-03 20:53

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Please advise on this seemingly simple issue:

The LXDE menu ("start button") in Easy Debian is now gone or hidden. The 'processer used' bar graph is also missing. I cannot browse through the different applications within LXDE now. I have searched heavily and can't figure out how to restore the LXDE menu ("start button"). I'm sure this is operator error, please advise.

Thank you again for creating such a great application!

rebhana

2010-03-03 21:06

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Originally Posted by mail_e36 (Post 554647)

The LXDE menu ("start button") in Easy Debian is now gone or hidden. The 'processer used' bar graph is also missing. I cannot browse through the different applications within LXDE now. I have searched heavily and can't figure out how to restore the LXDE menu ("start button"). I'm sure this is operator error, please advise.

With the new easy-deb-chroot package you should upgrade to the new image v3b to have the application icon back. The new image is significantly improved, new openoffice.org for instance, so you probably want it anyway.

mail_e36

2010-03-03 21:25

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Thanks for the tip, how do I upgrade to the v3b image? My Application Manager is not showing any needed upgrades on the N900 at this point (I just checked).

Please let me know

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Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 554663)

rebhana

2010-03-03 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mail_e36 (Post 554691)

Thanks for the tip, how do I upgrade to the v3b image? My Application Manager is not showing any needed upgrades on the N900 at this point (I just checked).

In the (Maemo) Application menu, just after the other Debian app icons, you should have the app "Deb Img Install" for doing that.

qole	2010-03-03 22:44

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rebhana: At the moment, I only know Ubuntu has OpenOffice 3.x in their repositories. At the moment, I'm trying to build an image file for Ubuntu but I'm running into a lot of filesystem corruption... :(

andrewfblack

2010-03-04 01:13

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qole I updated and getting this error.

/home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma failed to mount on loop0

mount mounting /dev/loop0 on /debian failed: invalid argument

old version worked fine.

RobbH

2010-03-04 04:25

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Originally Posted by kolos (Post 538880)

I solved my Abiword issue with upgrade to v2.8.1-2 (squeeze distro).

Upgrading to the Squeeze version of Abiword did not work for me. It complained about the absence of libgoffice-0.8.so.7 .

I finally created a symlink with that name in /usr/lib (in the debian file system) and linked it to libgoffice-0.8.so.8.0.0 in the same directory. Abiword now starts as it should, but I can't yet verify that everything works correctly.

mail_e36

2010-03-04 04:33

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Good evening,

After performing the upgrade to the v3b image (which seems to have completed successfully)the LXDE menu ("start button") in Easy Debian is still gone or hidden. The 'processer used' bar graph is also missing. Someone mentioned earlier that I should upgrade to get the application menu back, but it did not help.

I cannot browse through the different applications within LXDE now.

Thank you again for any help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mail_e36 (Post 554691)

Thanks for the tip, how do I upgrade to the v3b image? My Application Manager is not showing any needed upgrades on the N900 at this point (I just checked).

Please let me know

qole	2010-03-04 05:41

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andrewfblack: You need to decompress the image. Use the image installer.

mail_e36: This sounds weird, but uninstall Easy Debian and then reinstall it (make sure it is the one in Extras-devel). Don't delete the image file; just leave it alone.

doksng

2010-03-04 07:04

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 555043)

I have the same issue uninstalling and reinstalling Easy Debian does not change the situation. I can get out of easy debian by using the power key. The menu key is still missing.

hstende

2010-03-04 07:47

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@doksng
Have you tried running synchroot from meamo after mounting debbie to mount the disks?

doksng

2010-03-04 08:11

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Yes, I ran synchroot in maemo and still the same. Seems to be an issue with the new upgrade

qole	2010-03-04 08:29

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doksng, the file that is causing your problems is

/home/user/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/top

Try uninstalling Easy Debian, deleting that file, and then installing Easy Debian again.

If that doesn't work, tap-and-hold on the side panel until you get the panel menu and remake the top panel from scratch, although that shouldn't be necessary.

rebhana

2010-03-04 08:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mail_e36 (Post 555014)

After performing the upgrade to the v3b image (which seems to have completed successfully)the LXDE menu ("start button") in Easy Debian is still gone or hidden. The 'processer used' bar graph is also missing. Someone mentioned earlier that I should upgrade to get the application menu back, but it did not help.

I guess you are still using the v2 image. You probably have two images now. To make sure that the new one is used, you should either edit ~/.chroot or delete the v2 image.

karatestarfish

2010-03-04 09:34

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I've just installed image 3b and I'm really enjoying having access to more apps from mainstream linux. Thanks for your great work!

Qole, I saw a screenshot from early feb showing java applets running in epiphany, I think - should that still work in image 3b? On sites with java applets I get an 'applet not loaded correctly, please reload the page' error, and on the www.java.com applet test page, I just get a grey box. I was trying using epiphany-gecko, as it seems from other posts that iceweasel and epiphany-browser still have issues?

Can anyone suggest a possible cause or solution?

davedickson

2010-03-04 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ear0wax (Post 552945)

So after updating I started getting this error.

Mount failure!
/home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2 failed to mount on loop0

/sbin/qmount: line 195: dmlosetup: not found
mount: mounting /dev/dm-0 on /.debian failed: no such file or directory

Thinking it was the .ext2 img I replaced it. Didnt work.

And I couldnt find this error in the thread.

I had the same issue (see post 96) and for the answer see post 98 :D:D:D

guess its the same thing........

Quote:

Open terminal type:

sudo gainroot
ls -al/.debian

if you get "no such file or directory then type:

mkdir /.debian

davedickson

2010-03-04 12:41

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Very happy with image-v2 (using it since the start) but decided to upgrade anyway....steps below.....

1) Uninstalled version 0.9.39-1fremantle1

2) Reboot

3) Deleted image (v2) file using file manager

4) Reboot (prob not nessecary but couldn't hurt)

5) Installed version 0.9.45-1fremantle1 (from -dev thought this was going to be in testing but doesn't really matter :D)

After installation..................

10:48 : "Deb Img Install"

10:48 : "Main or Sweden Mirror" (main for me)

10:49 : Asked where I would like to install the image v3b

(MyDocs for me)

10:49 : ETA ~35 min - doesn't seem to be accurate - went up to 5 hrs then back down and jumped around a bit - no real problem with that - and I know it does that - just seemed to be really wild today so just thought I would mention :)

11:26 : 'debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma' saved

Testing the file to see if it is good.

Extracting debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma package....

Warning about device being unresponsive - noticed even the screen on/off flicker on right hand side is slow to respond - again no issue really if you know that it is going to take a while - just info for first time installers - don't think it hasn't worked or crashed and try and turn on/off (or anything else silly) at this stage ;)

12:13 All has gone well!

Opened up LXDE, tested Oo etc all works fine also tested from icon, everything fine. Will do some more installing of apps etc today, any problems I will let you know, again really easy to install and completely hassle free :D

mail_e36

2010-03-04 15:11

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An update: I was able to resolve the problem only be completely uninstalling everything related to Easy Debian and then reinstalling it again. It was time consuming, but everything seems fine now.

Thanks,

Quote:

Originally Posted by mail_e36 (Post 555014)

doksng

2010-03-04 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 555136)

Thanks, i was still using the v2 image and I installed using the v3b image and it is now okay.

Noticed that with the previous installer, if you download the image file manually and put in on the phone and run "deb img install", it installs directly and recognizes the image file on the drive but the new installer would still connect to the internet before it accepts the image file. If there is no internet connection available the installation fails even though the image file is on the phone.

qole	2010-03-04 17:18

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As far as I know, Java should work with 3b, in both Ephiphany-gecko and Iceweasel. The first time you use it, it might take quite a long time to initialize. If you get the grey box, let it sit for a few minutes to see if you get the netx dialog asking you where to put the temporary files.

hstende

2010-03-04 20:10

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I think the javaproblem can be the same as this bug:
http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzill...bug.cgi?id=406

davedickson

2010-03-04 20:23

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 555792)

Hey guys, Java works well, just went to

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ works ok

arono

2010-03-04 20:29

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I have extracted the v3b image file now ending with .img.ext2 and I tried to add IMGLINE in .chroot. When I start lxde i get ez-chroot error "The image specified in (the path) does not exist or is neither a regular nor a block file"

Help please

davedickson

2010-03-04 20:34

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Originally Posted by arono (Post 556047)

Im no expert but if you tell me the steps you followed i maybe able to help. installed easy-deb a couple of time now so have a bit of knowledge of this, but when it comes to complex linux stuff no chance but im online so let me know.

bimbim

2010-03-04 20:42

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arono did you try this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 546647)

you'll have to do it manually.
first, get the image file:
http://qole.org/files/debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma

extract it using

Code:

lzma -d debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2.lzma

close the debian chroot, then edit the file "/home/user/.chroot" so the parameter "IMGFILE" points to the new image:

Code:

IMGFILE=/home/user/MyDocs/debian-m5-v3b.img.ext2

arono

2010-03-04 21:02

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Well I have solved it now by rewriting the filepath to the file again, I don't know what was wrong really, must have been som character gone wrong.

mail_e36

2010-03-04 21:29

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Hello everyone,

I am semi new to Easy Debian, and I am trying to install a simple Linux command-line only program called TcpXtract within Easy Debian. I run
"sudo apt-get install tcpxtract". Apt-get does find the program in the repositories, and seems to install it, but also provides the following message at the end:

ldconfig: /usr/lib/libpulsecommon-0.9.15.so is not a symbolic link

The program (tcpxtract) seems to run though.

Can someone provide any thoughts on the meaning of the above message? Thanks!

delaroca

2010-03-05 00:29

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Qole, which version of the easy-debian scripts should i install, the version in Extras Testing or the newer version in Extras Development?

--denis

qole	2010-03-05 00:45

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Please download the Extras-devel version. You know where to post if it all goes wrong ;)

delaroca

2010-03-05 08:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 556250)

Please download the Extras-devel version. You know where to post if it all goes wrong ;)

Ok so far, decompression 3b image took less than 10 minutes... problem with themes, problem with Abiword resolved as per earlier postings.

Any reason you have the squeeze repositories disabled in the 3b image?

Puzzling behaviour of Abiword, when moving vertically via up / down arrow on auto-repeat... vertical bars are left behind on the screen -- they go away upon a screen refresh. Occurs with both debbie and lxde.

Thanks again for all the wonderful work!

--denis

hstende

2010-03-05 09:27

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I made a ubuntu lucid alfa version.
This is very very alfa. Openoffice 3.2 work, but the apt-get command is very broken, luckily the synaptic work well. I havn't tried to get the sound to work.
If someone want to try I have a link for downloading, but remember this is VERY ALFA and unstable so it's just for people like me that like to test new things and not afraid to reinstall firmware etc.
bz-version:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...5.img.ext2.bz2
lzma-version:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta....img.ext2.lzma

fw190

2010-03-05 10:34

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I was wondering if someone could post a "must have" list of packages to download. I've tried to browse them but ther are so many and I'm not a linux apps specialist. I've downloaded claws mail for starters but that is it.

rebhana

2010-03-05 14:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 556673)

A "must have" list will depend too strongly on what you want to do with your N900 to be universally valid. I for example have a complete Latex installation, because I want to be able to process scientific documents produced by fellow scientists. Without exhausting too much of your free space in the Debian image, I would highlight the following things I found useful and which might be useful to many others:

djview4: a book/document reader of djvu files
vpnc: a VPN client to connect to Cisco concentrators, something that is not yet supported by a stable Maemo package
openssh-client: to directly connect to other computers from within the Debian chroot
gv: alternative postcript file viewer - once that is installed, the pre-installed evince also succeeds to render postscript files
cups-client: to print to network printers served by UNIX machines, if your network has some
xmaxima: a free symbolic Math program (Maple and Mathematica developed out of that actually)
zim: a desktop wiki editor for note taking - a real killer app in my opinion (somebody is working on a Maemo version, but within the Debian chroot, everything is already functional, including an editor for Latex formulae, once you've also installed latex and dvipng), see: http://zim-wiki.org/

Apropos zim: I like to run it through debbie so that I don't have to launch LXDE for it, but I found some glitches which I can only avoid by running it as "sudo debian su -c zim - user". With debbie, user does not get initialized properly - qole: do you have an idea why?

To those interested in using zim, I recommend the version from squeeze! And this is my application item to start from the Maemo desktop:

Code:

[Desktop Entry]

Encoding=UTF-8

Name=Zim

GenericName=Zim

Exec=sudo debian su -c zim - user

Icon=xournal

X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable

X-HildonDesk-ShowInToolbar=true

Terminal=true

Type=Application

StartupNotify=true

(I'm reusing the icon of xournal here, btw.) For this you need to create a file zim.desktop in the directory /usr/share/applications/hildon/.

olympus

2010-03-05 15:59

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Hey guys, i have a silly problem with openoffice, i opened Styles and Formatting and now i can't get out of that menu.. even if i close the openoffice and run it again, when i open a document, the menu pops out again. Would need ESC key or something. Is there no other solution than reinstalling it? that would be odd i guess..

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