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rocky272727 2011-02-17 00:07

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
HI,

I reported a problem of constant CPU usage, it was due to Shake-N-Surf MicroB add-on.
I uninstalled it and now its fine

romiiio 2011-02-17 00:15

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Hi, how can i remove the hildon-desktop as when i try to install the CSSU its giving me error and wont install and the problem is the hildon-desktop.

ancow 2011-02-17 04:25

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boemien (Post 948486)
I think, IMO that this problem is related to power kernel. I did never talk about this before because I thought it was knew.
Installing Power Kernel make the phone not to reboot (At least in my case). Each time I Flash my phone, and add reboot option to power menu (or even reboot from command line), everything goes well. But Once I install an application which requires Power Kernel, the phone does not reboot.

I never installed the power kernel and had this problem intermittently since the day I got my N900, so I doubt the power kernel is to blame...

sachin007 2011-02-17 04:57

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
hello guys,

i really dont have the time to read all the posts in this thread. here is my problem.

1. after the community ssu my brightness has been always on full and i cannot see the brightness slider in the control panel.
2. i find an update for community update in the app manager but i cannot update. the phone downloads the update and reboots. it says the update is installing but shutsdown at 6 percent everytime.

please help if you can. thanks

Mart5.1 2011-02-17 05:33

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinigamijim (Post 948495)
i have one problem.... im unable to change the bright of my device

I have the same problem, the brightness control is now just one solid bar that will not respond to touch, any help would be appreciated.
thanks
mart5.1

lsolano 2011-02-17 06:22

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart5.1 (Post 948660)
I have the same problem, the brightness control is now just one solid bar that will not respond to touch, any help would be appreciated.
thanks
mart5.1

I've used for months Simple Brightness Applet, I consider it very useful and it works perfectly with CSSU.

Mart5.1 2011-02-17 06:32

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsolano (Post 948671)
I've used for months Simple Brightness Applet, I consider it very useful and it works perfectly with CSSU.

No it does not, at least two users are having problems with it, read the posts! I was looking for help not opinions.

rishabsp 2011-02-17 06:56

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
first of all a big thx to the developers for making an update for n900..I have a request pls pls make a software which can make video calls over 3g network..I mean 3g video calling over utms network not voip calls..i know video calling is possible throug skype and google talk but i stay in India and here hardly anyone uses skype or gtalk..and In India 3g servies are just started and I would like to do a video call from my phone to my frnds and all....i feel bad when i see mobiles like samsung star doing video calls over 3g ..I know n900 is a computer with a mobile....PLS PLS mohammad ag make my wish true would really thank YOU if u can make it possible and I know u can do it PLS

nicolai 2011-02-17 07:02

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
For those who have problems with the brightness applet,
have you made some "tweaks" with the brightness gconf
settings? And can you post the output of this command:
gconftool -R /system/osso/dsm

Nicolai

kolos 2011-02-17 07:38

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
I tried CSSU and for now I experience 2 issues. Modest (3.90.7-5) randomly chrashes and icons (shortcuts, widgets...) on desktop (hildon-home 0.3.71-4) become unresponsive after some time.

Mart5.1 2011-02-17 07:47

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 948682)
For those who have problems with the brightness applet,
have you made some "tweaks" with the brightness gconf
settings? And can you post the output of this command:
gconftool -R /system/osso/dsm

Nicolai

Thanks for your help, Sorry for the delay.
here is the command output you asked for.

BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

~ $ gconftoo -R /system/osso/dsm
-sh: gconftoo: not found
~ $ gconftool -R /system/osso/dsm
/system/osso/dsm/vibra:
touchscreen_vibra_enabled = false
/system/osso/dsm/locks:
devicelock_password_changed = false
devicelock_failed = 0
devicelock_total_failed = 0
devicelock_autolock_timeout = 1000
devicelock_autolock_enabled = false
touchscreen_keypad_autolock_enabled = true
/system/osso/dsm/leds:
PatternCommonNotification = true
PatternBatteryCharging = true
PatternCommunicationSMS = true
PatternCommunicationEmail = false
PatternDeviceOn = false
PatternCommunicationCall = true
PatternCommunicationIM = true
/system/osso/dsm/display:
display_brightness = 2
display_dim_timeout = 30
inhibit_blank_mode = 0
enable_power_saving = true
~ $ gconftool -R /system/osso/dsm
/system/osso/dsm/vibra:
touchscreen_vibra_enabled = false
/system/osso/dsm/locks:
devicelock_password_changed = false
devicelock_failed = 0
devicelock_total_failed = 0
devicelock_autolock_timeout = 1000
devicelock_autolock_enabled = false
touchscreen_keypad_autolock_enabled = true
/system/osso/dsm/leds:
PatternCommonNotification = true
PatternBatteryCharging = true
PatternCommunicationSMS = true
PatternCommunicationEmail = false
PatternDeviceOn = false
PatternCommunicationCall = true
PatternCommunicationIM = true
/system/osso/dsm/display:
display_brightness = 2
display_dim_timeout = 30
inhibit_blank_mode = 0
enable_power_saving = true

slender 2011-02-17 07:55

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Reading this thread just shows us that how frustrating it is to give users updates to their core system. No wonder why there is so much noise in bugzilla :) Nokia dudes test probably _only_ with freshly flashed devices where there is no 3rd party apps. Additionally I have to say that during n900+maemo I have realized that why other mobile systems are so freakishly locked down. Looks like that It makes sense :|

If you update your device then everything comes basically to this: Have you installed _any_ applications that alter system settings. Of course most of users canīt give answers to this question easily because well, they just install what they install by clicking stuff from HAM or FAP and in worst case do not even know if itīs from extras, testing or devel repositories.

I think devels of Community SSU should more clearly point out and that if you cannot debug stuff by yourself then maybe this thing is not for you.

Put big BOX on top of this page:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU

I have not YET tried to test this update but I would like to ask that is it possible to give user popup warning before installation with SINGLE SENTENCE where he/she is warned about using this update.

btw. There is no link to community-SSU from main page of repositories:
http://repository.maemo.org/

wumpwoast 2011-02-17 08:00

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wumpwoast (Post 947412)
For me the latest cssu modest fails to open unread messages from the message list, and throws out-of-memory errors when using the carat-buttons to cycle through messages.

Problem disappeared -- my MyDocs partition was full at the time so this may have been the cause. May be cause to improve error handling for certain events in modest, but inevitably a ebcak-style issue. :)

slender 2011-02-17 08:15

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Okeyyyy...

Is there garage page for this project?
Is there maemo.org/packages page for this project?
There is GIT page for all these packages?
There is bugzilla pages for these packages?
Should there be twitter page that is automatically updated when repository is updated...to boost stuff up and market this wonderful project.
There is wiki page for this project. There is TMO entry for this project.
Could we use brainstrom? How it could be integrated closely to this so that it isn't just one extra "module" of pages around this?

Currently I see spaghetti of stuff from point of tester/user :) Devels probably swim there like sharks but to me all this looks like big blob of strings flowing around.

How we can combine all of these in efficient way? Of course putting links to wiki page is first thing to do but what then? How we could categorize conversations so that people talking about hildon-desktop do not come same conversation where people have talk about modest? Maemo.org/packages kind of resolution. Or what else?

Iīm not giving any resolution here just thinking aloud stuff that comes to my head :)

First and foremost I think it should be really important to point out users WHAT packages there is currently inside of this update. "Go look from git", or "use dpkg -zxczxczxcxzcz" tadaa is not what Iīm lookg for. List of applications and not only package names because to most of users modest doesn't mean anything. IMO this should be stated on Wiki page before anything else.

And reason why I do not do any wiki editing is that Iīm 85% sure that it would go wrong :| Not that I do not know how to edit but information I would put there would probably be not exact!

wimmme 2011-02-17 09:28

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
works for me too !

nicolai 2011-02-17 09:33

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Hi Mart5.1,

there are some gconfsettings missing. Have changed your
gconf manually. Or did you use any other application which
changed the display brightness configuration.

Nicolai

Mart5.1 2011-02-17 09:56

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 948757)
Hi Mart5.1,

there are some gconfsettings missing. Have changed your
gconf manually. Or did you use any other application which
changed the display brightness configuration.

Nicolai

Hi Nicolai,
I do not think i have any apps that change the brightness, I did have to change gconf once but cannot remember for which app or widget sorry.But after installing the ssu package it reboots and says installing do not interrupt, then reaches 7% and shuts off, in app man its says the package is broken but installable, the ssu pack is always in the update list but seems to only partially install.

AlMehdi 2011-02-17 10:04

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart5.1 (Post 948774)
Hi Nicolai,
I do not think i have any apps that change the brightness, I did have to change gconf once but cannot remember for which app or widget sorry.But after installing the ssu package it reboots and says installing do not interrupt, then reaches 7% and shuts off, in app man its says the package is broken but installable, the ssu pack is always in the update list but seems to only partially install.

My guess is that one of the packages are missing an dependency and thus fails to install all the packages. Could you try installing using apt-get instead?

1. sudo gainroot
2. apt-get update
3. apt-get upgrade

droitwichgas 2011-02-17 10:31

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 948714)
Reading this thread just shows us that how frustrating it is to give users updates to their core system. No wonder why there is so much noise in bugzilla :) Nokia dudes test probably _only_ with freshly flashed devices where there is no 3rd party apps. Additionally I have to say that during n900+maemo I have realized that why other mobile systems are so freakishly locked down. Looks like that It makes sense :|

If you update your device then everything comes basically to this: Have you installed _any_ applications that alter system settings. Of course most of users canīt give answers to this question easily because well, they just install what they install by clicking stuff from HAM or FAP and in worst case do not even know if itīs from extras, testing or devel repositories.

I think devels of Community SSU should more clearly point out and that if you cannot debug stuff by yourself then maybe this thing is not for you.

Put big BOX on top of this page:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU
I have not YET tried to test this update but I would like to ask that is it possible to give user popup warning before installation with SINGLE SENTENCE where he/she is warned about using this update.

btw. There is no link to community-SSU from main page of repositories:
http://repository.maemo.org/


In my view there are sufficent warnings and the Developers are doing a fantastic job. It seems we have two choices here either we accept the CSSU may not be perfect all users or we accept there will never be anymore upgrades for the N900 as it is clear Nokia will not be issuing PR1.4 etc.

I no which option I will take and I assume that will go for 99% of the forum users.

Any users who have run into problems do seem to have received fantastic assistance from the Developers and all seem to have had any issues resolved.

I do agree the first page could be altered and have rasied this prevously as the original page on this thread did list the download instructions/warnigs. Perhaps there is an arguement for closing this thread and starting a new one with the CSSU instuctions as the first post but perhaps that will happen when the CSSU moves to stable in due course?

Jaffa 2011-02-17 10:38

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 948801)
I do agree the first page could be altered and have rasied this prevously as the original page on this thread did list the download instructions/warnigs. Perhaps there is an arguement for closing this thread and starting a new one with the CSSU instuctions as the first post but perhaps that will happen when the CSSU moves to stable in due course?

Apparently the first page can't be altered, except by the original author. Anyway, maintaining the information in two places is a recipe for disaster. The definitive instructions are, and always will, be at:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU

The mini-site is evolving really well, and we now have a page (which needs fleshing out, contributions welcome!) on how to use the new features in transitions.ini

droitwichgas 2011-02-17 10:38

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
As I do not have acces to the CSSU IRC to ask this question I will ask on this thread but I wonder if there is any possiblity of having the "swipe to answer" UI installed as part of the CSSU? As yet again this moring I accidently hit "reject" rather than "answer" when trying to answer a call quickly? It seems all we need to do is copy the UI used by the Nokia 5800, I apprecaite that maybe a lot easier said than done, or is that part of the "closed" side of the UI the developers do not have access to?

On similar lines I wonder if there is any chance of running a poll to see what the forum users would like to see in the next CSSU i.e. the developers could list the 5 or 10 improvements and we could vote for the ones we would like to see installed. As persoanlly I would sooner do that than read endless posts about Nokia/M$/Elop

sygys 2011-02-17 10:40

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wumpwoast (Post 948716)
Problem disappeared -- my MyDocs partition was full at the time so this may have been the cause. May be cause to improve error handling for certain events in modest, but inevitably a ebcak-style issue. :)

I have this problem as from day one. it has nothing to do with the SSU! the email client is freaking buggy!

droitwichgas 2011-02-17 10:41

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 948803)
Apparently the first page can't be altered, except by the original author. Anyway, maintaining the information in two places is a recipe for disaster. The definitive instructions are, and always will, be at:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU

The mini-site is evolving really well, and we now have a page (which needs fleshing out, contributions welcome!) on how to use the [url=http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog
new features[/url] in transitions.ini

Jaffa

Any chance the first poster could be asked to amend his post as I think he's still active on the forum? Just thinking of new users who stumble across this thread but have to then search the CSSU thread.

I can't personnally see having two thread would be an issue as if this one was closed the new thread would soon takeover?

Just my views anyway.

Jaffa 2011-02-17 10:42

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 948804)
It seems all we need to do is copy the UI used by the Nokia 5800, I apprecaite that maybe a lot easier said than done, or is that part of the "closed" side of the UI the developers do not have access to?

I believe the dialler UI is closed, BICBW.

Quote:

On similar lines I wonder if there is any chance of running a poll to see what the forum users would like to see in the next CSSU i.e. the developers could list the 5 or 10 improvements and we could vote for the ones we would like to see installed. As persoanlly I would sooner do that than read endless posts about Nokia/M$/Elop
I'm not sure we're at that point. People who've wanted to develop something to scratch their own itch have either created patches already or are now working on them to get them shipped. There's no "oooh, what should we work on next?" going on. However, non-technical people can contribute by approaching developers (such as #11832 - offline IMAP support) and asking for them to contribute to the CSSU effort.

Jaffa 2011-02-17 10:45

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 948808)
Any chance the first poster could be asked to amend his post as I think he's still active on the forum? Just thinking of new users who stumble across this thread but have to then search the CSSU thread.

Feel free to ask him to add a big:

Quote:

EDIT: For reference this is now all documented on the Community SSU homepage
I suspect it'd be better coming from !me.

lsolano 2011-02-17 13:20

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart5.1 (Post 948677)
No it does not, at least two users are having problems with it, read the posts! I was looking for help not opinions.

It does not what? I use it, I have CSSU and it's working.

And no, it is not "my opinion", it is my way to give some feedback to say that there is not a problem with CSSU and the brightness applet, so you can look at somewhere else, not only CSSU.

Also, you did not mention you were using the applet, you said your brightness control.

dekkelkamp 2011-02-17 16:02

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Are there plans to update the mail for exchange application? Syncing my contacts and calendar with google doesnt work with MfE. Would be nice to use the build in solution instead of applications like Erming-NG.

Jaffa 2011-02-17 16:06

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Those interested in the concrete development and actual code change in the CSSU may be interested in this proposal:

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ry/028151.html

As noted, IRC isn't the best for long-lived and multi-developer discussions; but neither is a single forum thread (nor, for developers, a sub-forum)

sjgadsby 2011-02-17 17:39

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dekkelkamp (Post 948999)
Are there plans to update the mail for exchange application?

Mail for Exchange support in Maemo is closed source. According to vitaly_repin, the Exchange 2007 portion could theoretically be opened. The Exchange 2003 portion cannot.

There's an existing thread searching for an open MfE solution.

Shinigamijim 2011-02-17 17:46

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 948757)
Hi Mart5.1,

there are some gconfsettings missing. Have changed your
gconf manually. Or did you use any other application which
changed the display brightness configuration.

Nicolai

I did use an app to change the brightness from the desktop.

tomchiverton 2011-02-17 18:48

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 946047)
It's also consistent with the behaviour of dpkg when encountering modified configuration files. Unfortunately, I'm not sure anything better can be much done (patches or suggestions welcome).

The experience I've always had on Debian on my laptop has been for it to ask, actually.

tomchiverton 2011-02-17 18:53

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillum (Post 946653)
the media player widget doesnt work with the new ssu anymore

WFM. This is an issue in plain PR1.3 though : https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7909

Jaffa 2011-02-17 18:54

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 949115)
The experience I've always had on Debian on my laptop has been for it to ask, actually.

Not always. Anyway, HAM doesn't. Patches welcome: HAM is nice & open source...

droitwichgas 2011-02-17 19:16

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 948809)
I believe the dialler UI is closed, BICBW.



I'm not sure we're at that point. People who've wanted to develop something to scratch their own itch have either created patches already or are now working on them to get them shipped. There's no "oooh, what should we work on next?" going on. However, non-technical people can contribute by approaching developers (such as #11832 - offline IMAP support) and asking for them to contribute to the CSSU effort.


Comments noted is there any chance the developers could tell us what they are working on next in order we can know what to look forward to with any future releases or is it a case of just wait and see? Is there any chance the patch to allow multiple desktops will be included as most of the other patches seem to have been released already?

Also I wonder what the plans are in relation to releasing a stable version as it seems all the minor issues when the first CSSU was released have now been ironed out. As I assume there are now user's who would like to download the CSSU who have been put off in view of the suggestions if may lead to the user having to flash his device? Although having said that i seem to be the only person asking this question!!

Thanks for your fantastic work so far..

hac11 2011-02-17 22:52

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Hey Guys,

First of all Thank the Techy Gods we have you to look after us after Nokia has abandoned the N900.

Im gonna sound stupid next to all of your comments but im new to this, but in my defence im getting more and more knowledgeable, so i can navigate my way through xterminal n all.

anyway i wanted to ask you, ive installed the update and everything is working fine but i dont see any new autorotations, or portrait modes anywhere. is this normal?

best,
hac11

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-18 00:15

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
hey guys,
just saw the post by thp about the features to look forward to in the cssu, and there was one that affected the rotation animation (around the z axis).

don't see it in transitions.ini. is it something in the future only?

arcean 2011-02-18 00:21

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Yup, global portrait mode (some apps may look ugly in portrait!) and z axis rotation should be available in the next Community SSU update.

normaltusker 2011-02-18 05:58

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Hi all,
I was fiddling around with the Maemodder script and experienced this:
When I installed MAG Hildon Desktop, It allows me to have the multiple desktops upto 9 in number. However, on installing this desktop, apt-get tells me that MP-communuity-pr has an issue and has to be uninstalled.
Next i setup multiple desktops and restored to the original hildon-desktop. With this, i still have the 2 extra desktops that I created and no MAG Hildon Desktop.
A quick apt-get-f install gets me back the hildon-desktop that the CSSU is providing.
Now there are absolutely no issues with the extra desktops either and can be used fine too.'
My question is -> can there be any way that the MAG Hildon-Desktop settings and CSSU settings be combined. Or is there an update to the MaeModder script that I have missed out? I want to have the best of both the worlds so I was just plain curious

normaltusker 2011-02-18 06:00

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcean (Post 949327)
Yup, global portrait mode (some apps may look ugly in portrait!) and z axis rotation should be available in the next Community SSU update.

according to @thp's blog, this is expected in a future update, when, that is not known yet. He said that is a Work in progress. :)

droitwichgas 2011-02-18 07:45

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hac11 (Post 949272)
Hey Guys,

First of all Thank the Techy Gods we have you to look after us after Nokia has abandoned the N900.

Im gonna sound stupid next to all of your comments but im new to this, but in my defence im getting more and more knowledgeable, so i can navigate my way through xterminal n all.

anyway i wanted to ask you, ive installed the update and everything is working fine but i dont see any new autorotations, or portrait modes anywhere. is this normal?

best,
hac11

Try Ctrl +mshift + r that should get it working


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