Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 

fan boys, some of you are against others for. what have you accomplichied. you deffently not talking stock, finances, trends and/or result. volt showing som diagrams wich is great.

why not talk stock instread of going in round and round and round :)

Elop this, android that, nokia this, windows that...start over again. Elop this, android that, nokia this, windows that...

I be back after next itteration :D

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I got real time stock on my ... Lumia :D no need for volts graphics. Although I admit they are on topic LOL

LUUUUUUMIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :D :D :D

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 

Hi Dave

Version 0.1a (beta)

nokiaValue = notVeryMuch

Public Void Stock_price (float nokiaValue) {

Elop this, android that, nokia this, windows that...nokiaValue

goesDown = nokiaValue * numberBetweenZeroAndOne

Stock_price (goesDown)

}

rgds

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 

Just saw report from IDC and Nokia who was #1 / Top Mobile Phone seller worldwide merely a year and half ago... has now fallen off the top five list.

That means roughly:
Samsung - 31%
Apple - 15%
RIM - 4.5%
ZTE - 4.2%
HTC - 4.1%
Total ~ 59%
Remainder ~ 41% shared between Nokia, Motorola, LG, SONY, Pantech, Panasonic, Dell, ASUS etc etc with 4% and less market share.

That explains a lot of why HTC has made losses instead of significant gains, how Microsoft has made much smaller gains (lost money) and how Nokia didn't drop out as badly as expected (found money). And while the entire industry grew about 30-50%, this growth was split between Samsung and Apple. Scraps were left to ZTE, RIM and LG. The rest of the companies lost share.

We need other platforms and OEMs to win market before this turns into a mono or duopoly.

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http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...6bf0108c8a.png

Helsinki, week view, €. It's nearly the end of the day/week in Helsinki.

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 

They are still number 2 according to IDC.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23753512

But off the list regarding smartphones.

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:B That's what I've been thinking.

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it's only the 808 left now. Clearly Symbian marketshare is much smaller than before. This would have happened regardless.

As far as I'm concerned I used smartphones when total smartphone marketshare was 2-5% Nothing has changed since then. :D

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Welcome to a new week!

Let's see, uhm... Yeah, graphs. Monday's mostly over in the Helsinki Stock Exchange... Today wasn't a particularly good day in OMXH. All numbers in Euros, day first, then week, and finally year to put it all into perrrrscheee-pecktuhv!

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...3eb5619342.png

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...f98e99e9d0.png

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...c27f1c6b2a.png

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And now, I give you file transfer via Bluetooth :D
http://wmpoweruser.com/much-demanded...via-bluetooth/

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Yay! It took an entire new OS and an entire new phone to make it happen.

Can I borrow the money I'll need to buy one?

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No HTC/Samsung WP8 review spoke about it so I would hold my horses on it for slightly longer...It could be a Lumia exclusive feature or a WP-to-WP only feature...

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It's still on the new OS, more than likely not going to be available on the WP7.x phones... and I totally wouldn't be surprised if it were only WP to WP. Sounds like a Microsoft move.

Volt already listed out the stocks - there's no stock trading due to flooding on Wall Street in NYC - and it doesn't seem like the Windows Phone 8 event has helped out Nokia.

But... I will have to say that my eyes really likes the grey Lumia 920 but for the price, I might go with the Nexus 4 or see what Jolla has... or might even go BB10. I'm overdue an update.

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the grey lumia 920 is like those girls you have a one-night stand with; they look nice but the next morning you realize oh s*it...

it looks nice in pics but on hand it is pretty boring and gets stale in a day or two...

My 2 cents...

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Nokia is a dead fish.

http://readwrite.com/2012/10/29/its-...ust-live-in-it

rgds

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Whenever i come to a phone-unfriendly web site like that link, I grow suspicious. When it turns out they pretend to be some sort of expert analyst on the mobile market, I'm not suspicious anymore, then I know it's all a big load of crap.

Besides, they are only regurgitating status quoi: Samsung is number one. It's the dynamics, the subtle changes that are of interest and of importance, even though they seem insignificant to an ignorant eye. WP8 is such a change. The demise of HTC, SE and Motorola is also such a change, overshadowed by the seemingly success of Samsung and Android. It's the downfall of HTC et al that is significant, the success of Samsung is merely a bi product.

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Whoo! Finally! Soooooooo... yeah... how long until you can actually do this? My Nexus Galaxy (almost a year old soon!) and Nexus 7 do it already... among other things WP8 has to catch up to. :) Windows Phone 8... it's leading from behind, right? That's the ticket!

I wonder how stocks will be doing (had done yesterday, release day), now that Windows Phone 8 is officially released and they had their big show with Nokia as Microsoft's favorite partner? Hmmm?

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 

Guys, have you forgotten that a OS don't come complete? Take a look at the long evolution of android.

Seems that some of you forgets fast.

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To switch the keyboard on WP8 you need to restart the phone.Which is totally ridiculous. I'm waiting for more usability issues to pop up

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lol

Quite possibly the best analogy I've heard this entire year.

I just like the non-flashy color that's not black.

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Just sell your Nokia shares. :) $$$$

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Pfft. I got out of Nokia when they spiked long time ago at 8.35 or so when I bought in at low 8.00, then they dipped into the high 7.00 range back to 8.35 before falling to this level they're currently at.

Been out. I'm not Lumiaman! Nokia stocks are a very long play that might not ever pay up like I'd rather it would. Still interesting to see the peaks and valleys in their stock. Who knows, might rally when we least expect it.

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Yup true since you want a non-flashy colour but try the red in your hands...Its pretty neat and though flashy it feels natural after a point...

The one main thing that annoys me of the Lumia 920 is the LCD screen...It isn't AMOLED so the bezel and the screen have a poor contrast...

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Wait. What!? NOoooo way.

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I'm not talking about the quality of the LCD by itself...

I mean power off the LCD and the contrast between the lighter shade of black of the switched off LCD doesn't contrast as well as an AMOLED screen would...

Not a point about the respective screen qualities per se but the hardware semblance...

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Windows 8 boost:

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...67af694d9d.png

Still a bit up to 2.18 for whoever bought in that area. But I bet we're going up there soon. Until the next news from Nokia.

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...e792c5ed8a.png

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NOKIA is going nowhere. I am in for a long haul.

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Nokia is a great buy for a few weeks perspective. two weeks from now it will be around 2,5. the possible trouble happens when reports reaching market and its to early to tell how lumia 920 will sell.

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What? I thought Windows people used to that by now. Updates-reboot-install-reboot-change settings-reboot. Heck, I remember how positively INCREDIBLE it was when you didn't need to reboot anymore just to change your screen resolution... I think that only happened by Windows 98, right?

BOOM! Oh yehhh! Look at that stock soar right up a few cents. Better sell while it's on its high peak, right? :)

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Now, now. It's Windows 8. Still Windows 8. How much of a boost could you possibly expect? :p

On a more serious note... It's only Windows 8. It's not like my coworker can get his hands on the Lumia 920 yet. Sales and reviews should have a more direct hit than Microsoft's lackluster product powerpoints.

The boost didn't even last long before variation took it half way down again... Nokia'll still need a miracle before we see anything big.

http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...72b28a9a5a.png

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I'll probably get shot for sticking this up but my doesn't it look purdy!

http://www.enlightenment.org/

Been following this since my earliest exploration into Linux.

What I wouldn't do for my Galaxy Note to have enlightenment running on it.

rgds

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Nokia laid off the Maemo people, I don't think they have the people for new linux adventures amongst their 100k of symbian centric employees.

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Yes, a real shame.

However I just saw my first Lumia advert on UKTV.

Oh dear .... did it sound lame. Not quite as lame as the Surface advert but lame just the same.

Hope springs eternal for a superb and completely open Linux device, I don't take my N900 out now in case I break it.

rgds

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On the other hand, I just saw something that redeemed Nokia products a bit. Although they're all-capasitive now:
at a Lu~ 920 demo they used the screen with regular leather gloves *thumbsup*. Lack of glove support is one of my primary turnoffs with capasitive screens.

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 

The lack of a stylus kills it for me (amongst other things), the Galaxy Note stylus is passable but not a patch on being able to use fingernails on the N900.

rgds

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There's a distinct lack of products with fingernail support these days. Unless you go for no-brand with old resistive stock. I really want hybrid screens, but I guess it's hard to combine gorilla glass and pressure sensitivity.

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Microsoft is poisoning it's dagger:

Wall Street Journal: Microsoft tests their own smartphones

However, Nokia's still growing (on WinP8, I assume)
http://bors.e24.no/e24/images/chart/...29c379a3d1.png

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Maybe some big investors are panicking about shorting NOK and losing money while at it due to the recent rise. So, what better way to reverse the situation than giving their buddy @ WSJ a call and asking him to report about rumors of something that is bad to the Nokia stock.. :rolleyes:

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Wall Street Journal doesn't appear to be that easy to manipulate. There are always rumors on Wall Street. This isn't iNgadget.

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 

new S40 device released yesterday so its probadly THAT reason nokia stock raise not because of wp