maemo.org - Talk - The EPIC N9 anticipation thread

Yeah I couldn't see why they price it like that although keep in mind that this is in a brick and mortar, perhaps online it may be cheaper, than again it's Italy...

zonk0r

2011-06-21 14:31

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Originally Posted by billybobjones (Post 1034813)

Yeah I couldn't see why they price it like that although keep in mind that this is in a brick and mortar, perhaps online it may be cheaper, than again it's Italy...

Berlusconi female tax - most probable cause

billybobjones

2011-06-21 14:34

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Originally Posted by smegheadz (Post 1034804)

seems like lots of anger and knashing of teeth over this, brings me back to the n900 release.
This is the next step in my opinion. n900 was a testing the waters with different features, wasn't meant for mainstream consumers but as a step.
Out of box is much better from what i'm reading, it has MMS!! It has better social network intergration, it has better event managment, it has better multitasking, did you see how many task's were running in some video's with no lag between jumping back to the task manager or closing them? the swipe feature is a step forward for 1 handed use, i've missed 1 handed phone use. i'm not too much of a fan of touchscreen typing but i'll not judge this untill i use it. as i stated earlier, some touch screen kb are terrible some are decent just like some hwkb are terrible and some decent.
i love the n900 but i can see it's flaw's and how it didn't appeal to mass market, i have let family and friends use it and it's good but as a phone wasn't good enough for them. things weren't easy and they don't want to spend their time learning when they have better things to be doing.

to summarise, i like the n9 and the OS, i've had me n900 since the release and i've only had to remove the battery twice to reset and that was because i was fooling around with extra's dev apps. i've never used the tv out on any phone. and doubt i will because i have a pc, or laptop for that.
i suggest you all look at the links provided by nokia which brock helpfully posted earlier before you start bashing. there's a wealth of information there. then sit back and ask yourself, can your teenage sister use it out of the box easer then using the n900 or of box?

Edit: sorry for the long message, been reading this thread since 12 and it's 3:25pm now.

Hey, I totally agree! I'm not knocking the phone because it doesn't have a quad core cpu and gpu with and HD Screen but, I am quite stumped at some of the choices like the lack of HDMI out? I can understand that you may not use that, but as a phone that is obviously catered towards mainstream users with 720p playback the fact that you can't output that to your TV on a 700 dollar device is unacceptable. I mean even if there wasn't a dedicated port they could have added a dongle.

superhero

2011-06-21 14:35

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i think if i do get this phone! ill probably get one of the NFC accessories... i hope they make that as a bundle option of some kind

billybobjones

2011-06-21 14:35

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Originally Posted by zonk0r (Post 1034814)

Berlusconi female tax - most probable cause

Someone has to pay for his S** life.

zlatokosi

2011-06-21 14:35

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The information was provided by Colin Giles, Nokia’s EVP of Sales. Even the NewYorkTimes quoted a similar pricing.

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/39725/...-revealed.html

marrat

2011-06-21 14:39

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@Brock and others from Germany:

http://blog.ovi.com/2011/06/21/be-a-...aps-and-drive/

Look at the screenshots... The maps preloaded are for D-A-CH region and operator is our good old Rosa Riese... So chances that the phone will come to Germany are 100% I'd say...

buchanmilne

2011-06-21 14:39

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Originally Posted by zonk0r (Post 1034727)

If you check the MeeGo Roadmap, you will notice that North American radio standards are not supported until MeeGo release 1.3 in October - so in short, No. This device is not intended for the American Market.

s/North American radio standards/CDMA/, so this would mean you won't see Meego on Verizon or Sprint until then.

It has penta-band WCDMA, so should work on your only real GSM-based provider.

Whether Meego supports CDMA or not probably has no bearing on whether Nokia will make a CDMA-based device. AFAIK they didn't even make an S60 one.

damion

2011-06-21 14:41

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OH YOUR GOD! I did not know that one of my colleages had a **cking n950 in her desk draw. Charging it now. I knew we'd had access to the n97 and n900 months before release, but I kinda assumed we wouldn't have this device. The company I work for partners with Nokia for some stuff.

smegheadz

2011-06-21 14:44

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think about all the 1 handed people that nokia have opened up the maemo/meego experience too :)

zlatokosi

2011-06-21 14:44

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Originally Posted by damion (Post 1034834)

Care to sell?

smegheadz

2011-06-21 14:45

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Originally Posted by damion (Post 1034834)

the amount of fricken tabs you have open!

BigBadGuber!

2011-06-21 14:47

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Originally Posted by zlatokosi (Post 1034722)

I agree.

Check availability for the US at:
http://europe.nokia.com/find-product...k-availability

??? Maybe waiting for WP7?

I just don't get it. Unless it won't be offered in the States, then I actually sort of get it (but hate Nokia for trying to rip off non-US customers in that way).

As I said before this device is going to Asia to combat iPhone. It has no chance in USA

damion

2011-06-21 14:49

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Originally Posted by smegheadz (Post 1034841)

the amount of fricken tabs you have open!

Yeeeah... For the new year resolution, I vowed to stop at 4 rows, but after having to scroll up and down through the list as I kept hitting in to the 5th row I gave up.

I don't think I can take this phone out of the building, but I'll find out if I'm allowed later.

Looking forward to getting a terminal open and trying ssh, it's all I'm interested in.

Frappacino

2011-06-21 14:50

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yea it looks like it

they wanna use this to combat the iphone....

David vs Goliath lolers

Would you REALLY bet on the kid with the sling ?

Do you feel lucky punk ? Doooo you ?

vi_	2011-06-21 14:54

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Originally Posted by damion (Post 1034850)

yeeeah... For the new year resolution, i vowed to stop at 4 rows, but after having to scroll up and down through the list as i kept hitting in to the 5th row i gave up.

I don't think i can take this phone out of the building, but i'll find out if i'm allowed later.

Looking forward to getting a terminal open and trying ssh, it's all i'm interested in.

dude.

Post boot log now.

Now.

Dmesg.

Now.

For the love of god!

Bazza

2011-06-21 14:55

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Originally Posted by damion (Post 1034834)

That's an E7.

ZackMorris

2011-06-21 14:59

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Quick question, does NFC have the capability one day to be paired up with lets say a NFC HDMI Video adapter, or is the communication speed not rapid enough to stream video?

superhero

2011-06-21 15:01

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Originally Posted by ZackMorris (Post 1034866)

Quick question, does NFC have the capability one day to be paired up with lets say a NFC HDMI Video adapter, or is the communication speed not rapid enough to stream video?

i was thinking the same thing, and maybe have a multipurpose pad... you put the "N9" on the pad and it charges the phone while having a hardware switch on the pad itself, between Video and audio... Meaning that if you want to stream HD to the tv or use ur stereo system as hey are doing now! maybe they left the HDMI port for that! ?

damion

2011-06-21 15:01

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not according to lsusb on my desktop which says I've plugged an n950 in. I don't have the unlock code and the thing was sat uncharged in her draw for god knows how long.

Verythrax

2011-06-21 15:03

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Originally Posted by ZackMorris (Post 1034866)

Quick question, does NFC have the capability one day to be paired up with lets say a NFC HDMI Video adapter, or is the communication speed not rapid enough to stream video?

Maybe... it uses NFC just for pairing but bluetooth to stream, at least in the 360 speaker case. maybe it's part of the NFC spec, using bluetooth everytime.

But it uses 4.0 bluetooth, right? How fast is that? I know that Sony have wireless HDMI transmitters for some of their Home teather products, but dunno the speed needed for 720/1080p transmitting.

EDIT: yeah, it can be used with Wifi, so it should be possible ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication

BK201

2011-06-21 15:03

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Originally Posted by Bazza (Post 1034861)

That's an E7.

No, it's not.

sr00t

2011-06-21 15:07

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Originally Posted by BK201 (Post 1034874)

No, it's not.

Then --->

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vi_
Originally Posted by damion View Post

yeeeah... For the new year resolution, i vowed to stop at 4 rows, but after having to scroll up and down through the list as i kept hitting in to the 5th row i gave up.

I don't think i can take this phone out of the building, but i'll find out if i'm allowed later.

Looking forward to getting a terminal open and trying ssh, it's all i'm interested in.

dude.

Post boot log now.

Now.

Dmesg.

Now.

PLOXXOR

Chrome

2011-06-21 15:07

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Originally Posted by Bazza (Post 1034861)

That's an E7.

No, It's clearly not.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7482/capturefi.png

zehjotkah

2011-06-21 15:07

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Originally Posted by marrat (Post 1034830)

Nokia Maps is mostly developed in Berlin/Germany from Gate5.

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Originally Posted by Bazza (Post 1034861)

That's an E7.

Not.
Take a look at the sides.

Do you have the 12mpix or 8mpix model?

ezameht

2011-06-21 15:09

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Originally Posted by damion (Post 1034834)

So please provide us with usefull information.

kolos

2011-06-21 15:10

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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1034844)

As I said before this device is going to Asia to combat iPhone. It has no chance in USA

Demographics of Europe

Asia accounts for over 60% of the world population with more than 4 billion people. China and India together have about 37 percent of the world's population. Africa follows with 1 billion people, 15% of the world's population. Europe's 733 million people make up 11% of the world's population. Latin America and the Caribbean region is home to 589 million (9%), Northern America is to 352 million (5%) and Oceania to 35 million ( 0.5 %).[6]

I think even Europe is more important then USA, where iO$ has greater share (44% vs 36%).

shallimus

2011-06-21 15:15

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Originally Posted by Verythrax (Post 1034762)

You just need a couple of clicks, not THAT wasted effort.

No thanks. I don't like giving login info unnecessarily either. And what's to stop me* writing a script, signing up for 500 Twitter accounts and signing this petition over and over? So where's the value? :confused:

Money talks. Twitter is great for holding politicians to account, but who buys what is more likely to influence Nokia than any number of Twit-things.

* CAPTCHA doesn't count; you can easily have the script present you just the captcha if you're bored, or farm that out if you have $10

Jedibeeftrix

2011-06-21 15:17

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Originally Posted by Verythrax (Post 1034873)

bizarrely enough, that is listed as a feature for meego 1.3, so it looks like harmattan is moving faster than meego in various areas.

i've seen BT4.0 reported, but no spec sheet says more than 2.1+EDR.

billybobjones

2011-06-21 15:18

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Originally Posted by Verythrax (Post 1034873)

Specs so far have mentioned bluetooth 2.1

lma	2011-06-21 15:22

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Originally Posted by volt (Post 1034659)

Four. Rows.

But only four extra keys and nothing too important at that either: a dedicated SYM, @ and punctuation. Still fewer keys than an N810.

Bazza

2011-06-21 15:22

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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1034880)

Nokia Maps is mostly developed in Berlin/Germany from Gate5.

Not.
Take a look at the sides.

Do you have the 12mpix or 8mpix model?

Was that question for me??

take a look at these 2 photos:-

1. Nokia E7

http://images.dailymobile.se/wp-cont...a-e7-black.jpg

and damion's

2. Supposed N950 (low detail)

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1308667286

Chrome

2011-06-21 15:28

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Originally Posted by Bazza (Post 1034899)

Take a look at the sides, e7 has curved edges while n950 has flat ones:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....0-wildlime.jpg

dcell

2011-06-21 15:32

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that is clearly NOT an E7

Bazza

2011-06-21 15:33

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Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 1034900)

Take a look at the sides, e7 has curved edges while n950 has flat ones:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....0-wildlime.jpg

Just looked at my missus E7.

So the meego developers N950 tablet has the same keyboard and the usb connects into the phone in the same place than the one from a symbian phone.

Hmmmmmmm the jury is still out on this one. ;)

smegheadz

2011-06-21 15:33

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Originally Posted by Bazza (Post 1034899)

as Zeh pointed out. look at the sides. take more then 2 seconds and look at the sides of the keyboard and screen.. compare it to the pic's shown of the n950 too.

Edit:
gaahh too late in this post.

zehjotkah

2011-06-21 15:36

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the question was directed to damion. which "N950" does he have, the 8mpix model or the 12mpix one?

Bazza

2011-06-21 15:37

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Originally Posted by smegheadz (Post 1034909)

as Zeh pointed out. look at the sides. take more then 2 seconds and look at the sides of the keyboard and screen.. compare it to the pic's shown of the n950 too.

Edit:
gaahh too late in this post.

Oh darn i looked at them for only 1.7 seconds. :):):)

Jury is still out though.;)

@zehjotkah

Oh ok.:)

Mandibela

2011-06-21 15:38

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Originally Posted by Bazza (Post 1034918)

Oh darn i looked at them for only 1.7 seconds. :):):)

Jury is still out though.;)

No, it's not :D

Get some eyewear :p

zehjotkah

2011-06-21 15:39

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Bazza, it is the "N950", trust me. If you had both device next to each other you'd see the difference.