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gerbick 2010-04-19 07:53

Re: Adobe slips mobile Flash 10.1 to second half 2010...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 617247)
What I meant was the Flash 10.1 will be treated like PR 1.2 and not that it will be included in PR 1.2. People will soon start 100-page threads speculating when Flash 10.1 will be released like the current thread about PR 1.2.

I totally misread that.

The speculation could be stopped with something that is quite simple. Not even the desktop is ready to ship. So the mobile versions are also forthcoming.

But I get where you're coming from. I put my vote on gremlins. They're to blame.

buurmas 2010-04-19 18:13

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10 - When will the update for the N900 arrive?
 
zwer, you make good arguments. Sadly, it doesn't seem to change the fact that Flash is a technology that will make my NIT less and less useful over time.

Although, to be fair, I'm starting to wonder if the same is true of JavaScript, now that desktop browsers today have JavaScript optimization and my NIT's doesn't AFAIK. Same thing with HTML5.

Dave999 2010-04-19 19:42

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10 - When will the update for the N900 arrive?
 
Flash 10.1 seems to be far away...and even longer for Maemo/Meego.

http://translate.google.se/translate...ml&sl=sv&tl=en

jim_0068 2010-04-20 03:02

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10 - When will the update for the N900 arrive?
 
CEO has it wrong, keep the faith:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/a...lking-hardwar/

HugoSon 2010-04-20 08:58

"Adobe Has Not Delayed Flash 10.1 At All"
 
Yesterday appleinsider.com (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=50433) reported that "Adobe slips mobile Flash 10.1 to second half of 2010" - now we can read on phonescoop.com that it is still on track for the first half of 2010 ("..."Adobe is still on track making Flash Player 10.1 for first mobile platforms including Android available before the end of the first half of 2010." Comments recently made by Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen have been misinterpreted. ...")

Source: http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=5835

So - chances "might" be back to have Flash 10.1 within PR1.2 (if Nokia is willing/able to bundle it with a - the next - public release).

maxximuscool 2010-04-20 09:02

Re: "Adobe Has Not Delayed Flash 10.1 At All"
 
mate you're dreaming.

HugoSon 2010-04-20 09:04

Re: "Adobe Has Not Delayed Flash 10.1 At All"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 618992)
mate you're dreaming.

Yes - I am :D

maxximuscool 2010-04-20 09:14

Re: "Adobe Has Not Delayed Flash 10.1 At All"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HugoSon (Post 618994)
Yes - I am :D

No 2 good things come from Nokia at the same time. Just the PR1.2 is probably out of our reach already. Not to mention they would give a damn about flash 10.1 right now. They are too busy with MeeGo development. Nokia already cut down the size of he Maemo team. Full force toward MeeGo release date!

jsa 2010-04-20 09:47

Re: "Adobe Has Not Delayed Flash 10.1 At All"
 
I don't think we'll be seeing Flash 10.1 in PR1.2. From what I've read, it adds a lot of stuff, including mobile-related features. There is probably a lot more to making it work than meets the eye and I don't think Nokia or Adobe or anyone are withholding it on purpose, it's just not ready yet.

For example things like this quote from release notes on why H.264 acceleration is only available on Windows:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash 10.1 beta release notes
In Flash Player 10.1, H.264 hardware acceleration is not supported under Linux and Mac OS. Linux currently lacks a developed standard API that supports H.264 hardware video decoding, and Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs.

The fragmentation is probably much worse on mobile software and hardware platforms, it's not a case of just dropping a binary in. It includes drivers, required middleware and APIs, Flash supporting those etc. I'm far from expert on this but I'm just trying to say it probably takes a lot more work than most here seem to think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool
No 2 good things come from Nokia at the same time. Just the PR1.2 is probably out of our reach already. Not to mention they would give a damn about flash 10.1 right now. They are too busy with MeeGo development. Nokia already cut down the size of he Maemo team. Full force toward MeeGo release date!

Can we get past this FUD already? Quim has repeatedly said that MeeGo and Maemo 5 are developed by dedicated teams that aren't tied to each others' resources or schedules. Besides, if they get Flash 10.1 working for Maemo 5, you're pretty much set for (Nokia's) MeeGo supporting it too.

Flandry 2010-04-22 03:20

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10 - When will the update for the N900 arrive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zwer (Post 615793)
... except in this case you don't have to pay a single cent to the crack dealer to continue enjoying your 'addiction', and the chemical formula of the drug is free and publicly available, ...

The price paid is in the decrease in performance for computers because of the proliferation of inefficient bloated script-based software. Flash is not the only culprit here, just one of the most obvious and successful.

The rest of the information was very useful. I have not been able to follow the computer industry tech news for a long time. Back when i developed my prejudices against flash and Adobe, things were very different.


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