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-   -   Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not. (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=44615)

ossipena 2010-02-18 10:28
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 533959)
If I write "Last night I dreamt I went to Manderley again", will you also make similar conclusions? :)

What I want to say is: even if you are interested in the N900 alone here and now, developers (specially commercial developers) are interested in volumes and future plans. The perspectives of MeeGo with it's API compatibility across MeeGo devices + Symbian devices is much more interesting than the focus on the N900 alone. Today there is still no MeeGo release, no MeeGo SDK and no reference hardware announced, but you can get the N900 with Qt 4.6 official around the corner and a decent development environment. With your apps developed targetting the N900 you can also start practising the Ovi Store game and etc.

This is something developers understand and (let me insist) this is something useful also for concerned N900 users to understand. Even if it doesn't answer directly your question here and now of whether Nokia will support MeeGo in the N900 or not.
now we just wait for all the devs in the world to rush buying a N900 and look at the prices of used N900s rocket to skies... ;)

maxximuscool 2010-02-18 10:30
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 533959)
If I write "Last night I dreamt I went to Manderley again", will you also make similar conclusions? :)

What I want to say is: even if you are interested in the N900 alone here and now, developers (specially commercial developers) are interested in volumes and future plans. The perspectives of MeeGo with it's API compatibility across MeeGo devices + Symbian devices is much more interesting than the focus on the N900 alone. Today there is still no MeeGo release, no MeeGo SDK and no reference hardware announced, but you can get the N900 with Qt 4.6 official around the corner and a decent development environment. With your apps developed targetting the N900 you can also start practising the Ovi Store game and etc.

This is something developers understand and (let me insist) this is something useful also for concerned N900 users to understand. Even if it doesn't answer directly your question here and now of whether Nokia will support MeeGo in the N900 or not.
Alright, thank for clearing it up Qqil, so do you know or have any idea when will the MeeGo SDK being release? I should refreshing up my C++ programming language and build something, have not used it for 4years and I am clueless now only know how to read the code but don't how to really start a big one.

Anyway, I hope you keep giving us some good news related to the life span of our N900 here. We all would be very appreciated to your contribution. :o

roundyz 2010-02-18 10:48
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
I really dont see how the device matters in this merger, no doubt intel are going to push thier hardware, and is there any release dates for the platform? N900 users should be grateful if it even comes the device, untill then long live maemo 5.

You also need to consider the actual life span of a smart phone, regardless of price or ones own love for it, 2 years perhaps? In which time I doubt nokia and intel will have both hardware and software ready in time from the announcement or even from the n900 release date.

maxximuscool 2010-02-18 10:54
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Let there be light for the mighty Maemo5. Let there be peace from this moment to next. May Maemo5 be remembered by every N900 users, may it be sound to the world, hallelujah. Let us pray

N900 the last Maemo: The Chronicle of Nokia N900

:)

jsa 2010-02-18 11:00
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 533972)
Alright, thank for clearing it up Qqil, so do you know or have any idea when will the MeeGo SDK being release? I should refreshing up my C++ programming language and build something, have not used it for 4years and I am clueless now only know how to read the code but don't how to really start a big one.

Anyway, I hope you keep giving us some good news related to the life span of our N900 here. We all would be very appreciated to your contribution. :o
You still seem to be missing the point. The point qgil has been trying to do here, and for companies at MWC is that you can develop for N900 in Qt NOW, no need to wait for Meego SDKs! The underlying platform components in Harmattan and Meego should be quite similar to what Maemo 5 has and if you use Qt you can carry the work you do now for Maemo 5 over to Meego and Harmattan later. It won't be a completely duplicate effort.

russo_br 2010-02-18 12:10
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 533959)
If I write "Last night I dreamt I went to Manderley again", will you also make similar conclusions? :)

What I want to say is: even if you are interested in the N900 alone here and now, developers (specially commercial developers) are interested in volumes and future plans. The perspectives of MeeGo with it's API compatibility across MeeGo devices + Symbian devices is much more interesting than the focus on the N900 alone. Today there is still no MeeGo release, no MeeGo SDK and no reference hardware announced, but you can get the N900 with Qt 4.6 official around the corner and a decent development environment. With your apps developed targetting the N900 you can also start practising the Ovi Store game and etc.

This is something developers understand and (let me insist) this is something useful also for concerned N900 users to understand. Even if it doesn't answer directly your question here and now of whether Nokia will support MeeGo in the N900 or not.
It is clear at least for me that QT is the path for developers and it shall benefit all Maemo, Meego and even Symbian device owners due to application portability. I also have no doubt that the announcement will only strength a really open Linux O.S. for embedded devices like we have know, changing the market for mobile apps.

But I am an end-user, not a developer, and features important to me like Ovi Maps free navigation are being pushed to Harmattan/Meego (and that's just one example, there are also other features that needs improvement & bug corrections, like email client, Ovi Suite compatibility, etc). From the N900 owners point of view it would be a relief to hear from Nokia a commitment to support Meego on our devices.

Shervin 2010-02-18 12:44
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Sigh I understand now... but it is very sad that Nokia do not follow Android/Apple/WinMo with backwards compatibility/constant update schedules.
My next phone will depend on how my N900 is supported.

Another thing that annoys me is that YES I understand programs written with QT will work on Maemo, MeeGo, and Symbian... But it still DOESNT change the fact that Maemo is now not even the focus... Instead MeeGo and Symbian will be. It FEELS like a dead end... It feels like at first it will be ok and we will benefit but then slowly die off.

onutz 2010-02-18 12:44
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
I'd bet qgil says Nokia HOPES "that you can develop for N900 in Qt NOW, no need to wait for Meego SDKs!"

Frappacino 2010-02-18 13:38
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
update on ari jaaksi's blog

http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2010/02/n...barcelona.html

most telling paragraph

"But there is better to come. The announcement of MeeGo takes N900 even further. Now listen to this:

MeeGo has already gotten many more people interested in N900 than Maemo platform alone would have done. I already know many people now gearing up their Qt based application development on N900. Why now? Because now they know it will not be just a Nokia-only thing but will be much wider and thus worth investing in. This means that there will be more applications for N900 owners in the future than there would have been without MeeGo. This is for sure. This is the most important thing for the majority of N900 customers. With MeeGo, Maemo and N900 will only go stronger!"

that last sentence is telling. But the whole paragraph is very clear too

its obvious at this point what these verbal dodges mean - emphasis is only on n900 benefitting from meego - so no meego for n900,

so weak of Nokia not to come out and admit the ovbvious.

oh well, your mileage may vary

Olvi 2010-02-18 13:44
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Seems kinda obvious the N900 will not get Harmattan/Meego/whatever. They just don't want to say it as it would destroy N900 sales at the moment. No proper Maps, no video calling, no portrait etc. The future of the N900 is just like it was on release, plus maybe some bugfixes. Not big ones though, those are in Harmattan.

But hey, some yet unknown future developer might just port their QT-programs to the N900 as well! So what are you complaining.


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