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neotalk 2010-06-03 15:06

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mokkey (Post 697819)
i ent going after any 1 im just sayin it is on topic its a good idea for meego?


speak english please?

Texrat 2010-06-03 15:08

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by mokkey (Post 697819)
i ent going after any 1 im just sayin it is on topic its a good idea for meego?

Please read Quim's post about the subject matter very carefully, thanks:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=162

nicola.mfb 2010-06-04 10:56

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
I will happy to collaborate, but how?

For users I suppose testing upcoming(?) images? in that case should we wait for Nokia releasing first the new harmattan device, or some preview will be available before?

For developers I guess porting maemo5 community software to harmattan? in that case I'd like to know details about the harmattan middleware/gui.

IIRC the gui will be changed deeply, new window manager qgraphicsview based, system menu and applications qt based right? in the new DE will maemo5 hildon apps will be compatible (reusing XAtoms, etc.)? how much the new DE shares code with meego touch framework?

And what's about the middleware? will we see icd, sscd, csd, etc? or harmattan is going to get some meego stuff (ofono, connman, etc.?)

(the two questions are there to understand better if nokia (on the next harmattan device) and community developers (on the n900) are going to waste time, or their efforts, at least in some parts, will be reusable on meego)

And finally I just guess that harmattan will have some closed nokia parts, and AFAIK there is no public and documented way to produce a maemo rootfs from scratch, so this community harmattan edition needs anyway Nokia "semiofficial" support for the n900 adaption, will that be assured in some way, or simply nokia will release to the community the necessary binary packages, code, tools and documentation?

Sorry if some question may seem stupid or have obvious answers, but it's not easy to gather all the information, did I lost a wiki page?

Thanks.

flailingmonkey 2010-06-04 12:51

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
nicola.mfb: for most of the juicy harmattan details, we have to wait for the Harmattan SDK alpha/beta release. Until then, Nokia policies forbid their employees (who do know all of these details) from releasing that information to the public (that would be us). While its a bummer, I hope that most people realize that breaking those kinds of policies can have severe consequences for the employee responsible, so please don't ask them to risk their jobs.

As for the Nokia assistance regarding the closed parts, there have been a bunch of posts in this thread which confirm that they will provide help, but they aren't going to provide consumer level support (that's what "official support" really means to Nokia). Which is wonderful news indeed :-)

nicola.mfb 2010-06-04 13:17

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Oh Yes! that's is really wonderful! and yes, I understand the NDA, so not forbidden answers are welcome ;)

Anyway some info is already available looking at sources, just now I'm trying to compile the harmattan gui and can see the word "meego" everywhere :) well that makes much sense, just suppose that at some point it will be branched and freezed for the harmattan release.

A little speculation about the middleware, it's not yet ready, and may be the same is for the gui part or higher levels that has to speak with it (just thinking that telepathy ring was just announced and the isimodem driver is in heavy development), so the harmattan device *should* be an hybrid less or more meego centric depending on the roadmap/release date and development speed due to the need of freeze and qa tests, and that may be reasonable.

Well all that (if true) will make the n900 very near to meego instances and products (if I understood well the terms) => near to apps too.

Just waiting for the next step ;)

mokkey 2010-06-04 22:05

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neotalk (Post 697832)
speak english please?

what are you gassing it is KMT

nosa101 2010-06-04 22:18

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by mokkey (Post 700249)
what are you gassing it is KMT

Porque????

Venemo 2010-06-10 22:27

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
Hi Everyone,

I'm not really sure about what is the current state of MeeGo and stuff, but I have a question.

I saw some very convincing videos and pictures about the MeeGo tablet user experience.
Is the UX also open source?
Does it work together with the current release of MeeGo?

Is it possible to use the current "MeeGo 1.0 for N900" together with that UX on the N900 now?

wmarone 2010-06-10 22:37

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 709599)
Is the UX also open source?

http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux

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Does it work together with the current release of MeeGo?
The current release of MeeGo for netbooks includes it.

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Is it possible to use the current "MeeGo 1.0 for N900" together with that UX on the N900 now?
Maybe, but you'd have to build and install it. The handset UX will be available at http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-handset-ux once it's out.

Venemo 2010-06-10 22:48

Re: N900 community support for the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 709609)

I was talking about the tablet UX, not the netbook one.


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