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Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

Looks like our "friend" is chucking serious amounts of petrol on the Symbian bonfire. An article just published on The Register reports that Nokia are accelerating the Symbian rundown.

Question I have is whether this is cos symbian aint selling, or that the Lumias arent selling and the few people buying Nokia hardware are buying Symbian, so by killing it off it reduces choice for those punters and the hope is that they will buy lumias instead.

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Originally Posted by abubakar (Post 1159883)

For all I know, even today in 2012, harmattan-meego is the best platform to utilize multicores. Period.

Until Nokia pairs Harmattan with anything multi-core, you're simply speculating. Sure, it has Linux underneath, et al. But the fact that it's not on a multi-core hardware doesn't support much more than just idle chatter and wishing.

Technical details aside of what's underlying Harmattan, I'm saying until it does exist, we're just hoping.

And yes - for the record - I know that WP7 doesn't support multi-cores in its current iteration fully. And it's definitely evident via

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

...of course sales are falling ALSO because you idi*t announced that Symbian will vanish. Anyone in for creating a voodoo doll for the community?

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Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1159964)

...of course sales are falling ALSO because you idi*t announced that Symbian will vanish. Anyone in for creating a voodoo doll for the community?

That announcement never made sense to me unless you were trying to scuttle your own company. And that seems to be the case even more so each and every day.

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Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1159964)

...of course sales are falling ALSO because you idi*t announced that Symbian will vanish. Anyone in for creating a voodoo doll for the community?

Anyone on TMO from Africa?

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Originally Posted by gazza_d (Post 1159953)

If this happens to be true, the world is in for a great surpr......expected happening, a buyout. Elop is either using his last few drops of pesticide poision at clearing anything Nokia or he is clearly stupid by continuous selling/rejecting of profitable segments and counting on an OS...sorry....ecosystem that is only represented by 1% on the market in tandem with its predecessor.

Funny thing is, such idiots are rich and on top of us. Pathetic.

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Originally Posted by gazza_d (Post 1159953)

Looks like our "friend" is chucking serious amounts of petrol on the Symbian bonfire. An article just published on The Register reports that Nokia are accelerating the Symbian rundown.

So Nokia is finally taking his retirement on the growing SmartPhone Market if favour of FeaturePhones. :(

So sad. They had the best devices for a long time and the Hardware quality is still great.

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Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 1159975)

So Nokia is finally taking his retirement on the growing SmartPhone Market if favour of FeaturePhones. :(

So sad. They had the best devices for a long time and the Hardware quality is still great.

Instead of churning out more and more Belle and Harmattan devices, he is focusing only on ecosystem, ecosystem, ecosystem, WP. How can an ecosystem be sustainable when nobody wants to live in it?

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Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 1158432)

Actual text of Elop Call bold is mine for the parts pertaining to blaming salesmen. Judge for yourself.

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Elop:
Contrarily, in German and Spain, we have seen steady weak-on-weak improvement in Lumia device activations up to the holiday season followed by a small expected dip during the last week of the year and then continued weak-on-weak growth in January. We are in the very early days in the United States with T-Mobile, and we are very encouraged with the early pickup that we have seen retail outlets.

Not sure if typo or factual :)

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Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1159936)

Nokia lost US$1.4 billion in 2011. Symbian sales are falling in double digits every quarter. The crazed Elop won't sell N9 in all markets. Sales of dumb phones are dropping as users switch to smartphones and their profit margin is thin anyway. So you expect Lumia to charge in and carry the day?

Let's get some perspective. Europe is WP7's best market. Despite huge promotion and incentives and banning N9 from competing with WP7 it only sold a dismal million units if Elop is to be believed. N8 with a sunset Symbian os sold 4 million in its first quarter. Lumia will have a harder time outside Europe as the rest of the world doesn't care about WP7. Overall WP7 has a global share of less than 1%.

Slapping a Nokia label on a WP7 phone isn't going to make any difference. There is no hardware, software or price breakthrough in the Lumia. Why should users start loving WP7 just because of the Nokia name? As a brand name Nokia is not even cool or trendy. It is like what Volvo is to cars - dependable but boring.

I expect Lumia sales to be depressed outside Europe including the U.S. Maybe Nokia can sell a few million a quarter overall. In 2 quarters Nokia will be on its knees looking for a white knight to save it.

you are preaching to a converted :o
i started calling m@ke$$h!t LostDOS... m@ke$$h!t LostDOS twenty years ago (started working with OS/2 back then; was a co-development between m$ & IBM for version 1.x before m$ went NoTech but still, it clearly showed how crappy windoooooz always was; and will be...)
putting their crap on a mobile phone is even more ridiculous then trying to use it as a server OS :mad:
or for anything else, for that matter :rolleyes:

but hey, it's a free world, right?

to hedge off the idiotic remarks about OS/2...
the last OS/2 servers used @ IBM as LAN & print server had a track record of uninterrupted availability extending into hundreds of days whereas... a weekly reboot is required by m@ke$$h!t for their crap 'cuz of their lousy (patch) dev skills
i started playing around with GNU/Linux a couple years later until i finally switched to openSUSE ½ a dozen years ago (v!$t0, anyone?)
still kept a crappy copy of LD, 1st to update the N95 & now my navigation system :(
for all i care ma@k$$h!t can go to hell
let's hope NOKIA comes to its mind & kicks the m0r0n out before it's too late :mad: