maemo.org - Talk - 2012 Coding Competition

haha sorry Skyler, I received a advertisement/spam email to the competition email address about a new range of electronic door locks, and it was signed

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Thanks Best Regards
Skyler

As you're the only Skyler i seen around, I thought it might have been you offering all us maemo.org members a special deal :D Im sad now if it isn't you, I'll have to pay full price for my electronic door locks after all! :p

skykooler

2012-09-26 17:03

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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1272492)

haha sorry Skyler, I received a advertisement/spam email to the competition email address about a new range of electronic door locks, and it was signed

As you're the only Skyler i seen around, I thought it might have been you offering all us maemo.org members a special deal :D Im sad now if it isn't you, I'll have to pay full price for my electronic door locks after all! :p

Odd. Not me though.

rotoflex

2012-09-26 17:29

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Include me with the others saying that this has been a great competition with one of the best arrays of entries.

3clch4pawlakov

2012-09-26 20:11

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When the results will be announced?
Just after the voting end or later?

helex

2012-09-26 20:55

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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1272434)

I'd also be very surprised if they will finish their QA and update it within 3 days - I'd be more worried about them pulling it, I'm not sure how you managed to sneak your WPx Emulator past them in the first place lol :p

It was not my fault, I have just submitted it and they approved it without discussion. LOL! :D

But a early sign of bad news. Content Item and File were approved, I uploaded yesterday just a new "file" and the content Item (text and description) was still approved and the new debian file were in the state "in progress".
Today both, file and content Item, are in the QA process without changed anything... so, lets see what happens. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1272443)

Well I think Store QA isn't getting enough apps to analyze... See this...1 day to go thru' QA :eek:

I just edited the Item and resubmitted it without changes to trigger the QA process to begin again. So even if they are able to do the QA tomorrow the update will not arrive until late tomorrow evening. Just to be safe. :)

helex

2012-09-26 21:38

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Originally Posted by leon.anavi (Post 1272268)

I don't think you should worry about the update. Updates are always good for any app (although exception exist: maps in iOS 6 ;) ) so in my opinion the sooner the better. I think that Nokia should give you a special prize Nokia Lumia 920 :)

Oh please, god... NO! :mad:

I've already a Lumia 800 in my cupboard. A dust catcher, nothing more. I have never sold one of my old, used Nokia's - but this time I really feel sorry to have not put this "great device" on eBay as early as possible to get at least some money for it. But the price dropped so fast... I think I will keep it now simply to have a unused spare battery for my N9. Just in case.

kojacker

2012-09-27 09:40

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Originally Posted by 3clch4pawlakov (Post 1272645)

When the results will be announced?
Just after the voting end or later?

I'm not sure if it'll be immediately available to everyone or if it comes announced via council or to myself first, but as soon as I know you'll all know (if you don't all know before me :) ) It shouldn't be long after the polls close before we get the final results. Which reminds me..

TODAY IS THE LAST CHANCE TO VOTE! :eek:

rash.m2k

2012-09-27 10:05

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Can't wait! Hope I win! Shame I can't vote cos my maemo.org account is new.

Oh and then I can push out the updates to my app, got some reasonably big changes and some more polish!

peterleinchen

2012-09-27 11:45

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TODAY IS THE LAST CHANCE TO VOTE! :eek:

I already did so.
And YOU?

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.
.

Yes, you (not kojacker)?

tommyj23

2012-09-27 11:46

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I'm very impatient! I also hope to win!
I've not been able to vote!
but you can!!!
go go go!:p

Today is the day!!:cool:

EmaNymton

2012-09-27 12:52

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I already voted, too, great new apps all the way!

I've just two questions about the prices (no, I don't think that I have big chances, but just in case... :D):

1. Are the N950s our own devices, because all others were given away as a loan. If so, are we allowed to sell them or exchange them with others? I ask because I already own a N950 and take part in this competition, because I want a N9.

2. Do you know when and how the prices will be delivered? I ask because I will be not at home for the next 10 days and probably without access to my emails.

btw: If you have any recommendation for prepaid data plan in italy please PN me ;)

kojacker

2012-09-27 13:18

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Originally Posted by EmaNymton (Post 1272920)

The answer to your first two queries is wrapped up in one of the rules:

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•Device prizes are distributed by Nokia, in accordance with any rules and restrictions of the Nokia device program.

So I expect they will be a 'loan', but the type of loan where it's not expected you'll ever be asked to return them. As you already have a N950 (I assume through a similar device program) there will be similar expectations on you that you'll appreciate any device you win. I have no idea if Nokia is taking an interest in those who are selling their developer devices on ebay but it's hoped you would make good use of them yourself :)

Each category has a pool of devices assigned, and the first placed developer gets first choice, etc etc until all gone. For any device winners in a similar situation as you could be (as you have a N950 already and would like the N9) we'll try to swap prizes amongst device winners so they'll have the one they want. For those who are in the top places and don't want a device we'll substitute a bounty share and give someone outside the winning positions a chance to claim the device.

As to when they will be delivered, we'll provide your details to the Nokia contact who sorts all that out. it usually takes atleast a couple of weeks to get everything sorted but once they are posted out they arrive very quickly.

ikkysleepy

2012-09-27 15:55

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I can't vote, but I would love some feedback on my app. Can any N9 developer please provide feedback on my app, Next BART? In return I will provide feedback on your app, if it's on the N9.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86586

You can send me a private message or post it in my app thread. I would really appreciate it.

Maybe it's normal that few people write reviews or give feedback, can any other developer chime in on this? This is my first app and i'm just wondering.

Thanks. Great apps by the way, and good luck to everyone. =)

rfeese

2012-09-27 17:30

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Originally Posted by ikkysleepy (Post 1272971)

Maybe it's normal that few people write reviews or give feedback, can any other developer chime in on this? This is my first app and i'm just wondering.
=)

I can't comment on feedback, but I know from experience that testing can be very time consuming (I think I spent 2 hours testing and voting last weekend!). Also, according to my logs, only two people have downloaded my app. It would probably be better if I had been able to finish proper packaging and uploaded to extras. Or, maybe my app just has limited appeal!

kojacker

2012-09-27 19:47

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Originally Posted by ikkysleepy (Post 1272971)

Maybe it's normal that few people write reviews or give feedback, can any other developer chime in on this? This is my first app and i'm just wondering.

Hey ikkysleepy, I'll give you more feedback after the vote closes but I've tried Next BART and I think it's a very polished app :) Probably the biggest reason for lack of reviews or feedback is because it's focused squarely at San Francisco travellers.. and N9 owners in San Francisco are probably even rarer than the magical white N9 :) Also it's already quite complete. So don't be downhearted :)

Maybe there's some way of opening up what you've done with the user interface to incorporate other transport systems? That would be very cool as it's a really nicely designed UI and it will help get others involved in what you're doing. Also, bump your Announce thread a bit with news etc.. you tended to post really early in the morning for us Euros and by breakfast arrives your thread is already in page 2..

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Originally Posted by rfeese (Post 1272996)

Oh rfeese your biggest problem with getting testers is no doubt because there isn't an easy to install package as yet. Which is a shame, because math bingo sounds actually like a lot of fun. When I get my N900 back I'll be sure to try it out :) It's a neat idea and once it's more accessible (packaged on a repository) then a lot more people will be having fun with it :)

Also rfeese, can I advise you to open an Announce thread for Math Bingo? Not only will you draw more attention to your application, people will come across it and help you out with packaging etc :)

Edit: Oh ikkysleepy and rfeese (and all, but mostly useful for the newer guys) you might also want to add details of your applications in your signature - therefore every time you post there's a chance someone will notice it, take an interest, and click to learn more. Also the google bots etc will pick it up and it'll start appearing in web searches. Look at mine, I have 3 or 4 things in there but then again i'm greedy and shameless :D

draxcp6

2012-09-27 21:58

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Edit: Oh ikkysleepy and rfeese (and all, but mostly useful for the newer guys) you might also want to add details of your applications in your signature - therefore every time you post there's a chance someone will notice it, take an interest, and click to learn more. Also the google bots etc will pick it up and it'll start appearing in web searches. Look at mine, I have 3 or 4 things in there but then again i'm greedy and shameless :D

Thanks, but its a bit too late for this advice :)
However, it can be useful for future projects.

Can't wait to see results... :)

peterleinchen

2012-09-27 22:15

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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1273035)

I have 3 or 4 things in there but then again i'm greedy and shameless :D

Ashamed as we were, we did not make use of it. :p
But here we go for less than the last two (2) hours of voting.
Everybody still up or is awakening, please vote for your favourite.

And do not forget the council/board nominations/elections!

rash.m2k

2012-09-27 23:12

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okay did I win?:D:D:D:D

taixzo

2012-09-27 23:25

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Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 1273133)

okay did I win?:D:D:D:D

It's still the 27th here...

aStrike

2012-09-27 23:32

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Less than 30 minutes left... :D

woody14619

2012-09-27 23:48

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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1272929)

So I expect they will be a 'loan', but the type of loan where it's not expected you'll ever be asked to return them.

Our understanding is that these devices are in fact given, not loaned. That was stated by Quim while he was the Nokia rep, and AFAIK, that has not changed on his leaving.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1272929)

As you already have a N950 (I assume through a similar device program) there will be similar expectations on you that you'll appreciate any device you win.

The official rules are that you can not win a device of the same type if you've won past Nokia competitions. So if you have an N950 from a previous event, you may in fact only claim an N9.

As for when results will be ready, the machine will make the vote tallies available as soon as the poll closes. However, due to considerations like those above (and the fact that some entrants are in multiple categories, and can only validly win one category?) the "official" results may be somewhat different for a given category than what a simple run of the vote counter would yield.

draxcp6

2012-09-28 00:21

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I'm freaking :D

Estel

2012-09-28 00:50

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As for devices sponsored by Nokia - they're definitely "owned", not "loaned". At least, that was the case for 74 devices already assigned. I doubt, that it will change for last 26 ones.

As for rules - AFAIK, rule about"can"t get same device type, if You won it from other program already" was only valid for Community Awards. Last time I checked (was while ago) - it was up to Coding Competition, *not* Council, to decide how devices will be assigned by Coding Competition.

I'm certain, that Nokia haven't requested any changes to it (in fact, it's hard to get *any* contact with them, lately), so it's still up to CC Masters, to decide. Council role start and ends by sending list of winners to Nokia contact.

/Estel

kojacker

2012-09-28 04:35

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Thanks to Woody and Estel for clearing up the loaned/owned question, so there you have it guys :)

In regards to previous devices received by the winners, it's probably best to err on the side of caution so no-one is disappointed. From my understanding, Nokia have been strict on the 'one device model rule per developer through a device program' in the past. We make mention of it in the competition rules just in case:

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Device prizes are distributed by Nokia, in accordance with any rules and restrictions of the Nokia device program. Receipt of devices from previous distribution programs could affect the competition winner(s) options of available device. If a suitable device cannot be arranged through the device program, we will make efforts to substitute a share of the community prize fund.

Edit: In case anyone is wondering, I don't have any results as yet.

Estel

2012-09-28 04:44

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kojacker, I'm sure that most of device recipients (from previous programs) would be honorable enough, to not accept 2nd N950. Heck, if You remember, one winner from Community Awards even donated his *first* device (at least, from programs ;) ) of this type, to Coding Competition.

Although, IIRC Nokia statement about devices, ti was totally up to us (Community) to decide. I doubt, that anyone changed in that matter. At least, during Community Awards program, it was Council's decision to limit possibility of getting 2nd device from Nokia's programs, not Nokia directive. So, it's probably "hot topic" for CC to decide - the faster, the better, if You ask me. I think it would be great to answer definitely, before winners are announced ;) (just a suggestion).
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In my personal opinion (= feel free to scrap it into trash bin, and don't care) it would be best, for such "controversial" case, to keep honor of being winner, but pass device to another recipient (after all, what can be done with 2nd N950, if we don't like idea of selling it on eBay for more $$$ than whole monetary pool for prizes on CC?).

IIRC, Coding Competition have nice tradition of very honorable winners, that passed device further if decided that don't need it, in reality. So I doubt there will be any big problem, after all :)

/Estel

kojacker

2012-09-28 05:22

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Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1273194)

Thanks Estel :) It may be that there isn't the same restrictions with the coding competition, but you're the first person who has mentioned that to me. I don't have any direct contact with the Nokia rep to know either way, but the word from current council is that the restriction is in place. So in this case I have to go with the restriction is there so that nobody is disappointed later on.

Most people understand that we must abide by the rules of the Nokia device program and basically those exact rules are whatever the Nokia rep decides at that time :rolleyes: Our job at the coding competition is to distribute these devices assigned to us as fairly as we can, but we can't force the Nokia rep to do whatever is decided here. And as you know, our Nokia rep has changed at least once during the competition and it's hard to gauge their mood on things :rolleyes: I'll help to accommodate everyone's requests but if Nokia refuses to send a device to someone there's only so much we can do to persuade them.

My first task when the final list of winners is in, is to contact them and see if they have received a device before and what their expectation of a prize is. If anyone is in the situation where they are requesting the same device they received previously I can offer to see if council can contact the rep to confirm however I'll make it clear (if it isn't already) about the restriction on previous device programs and it may not be possible. To be honest, we've discussed devices many times in the thread and I think most people are aware of the restrictions we work around. So I'm not sure it's a hot topic, but please don't create it as one now the competition has effectively ended!

Edit: We have the ballots in OpenSTV format, paging Wonko to help with counting the votes :)

Estel

2012-09-28 06:15

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It's strange, that council told You about restriction. when I was Councilor (which covered whole thing about CA), Quim's stance was "you give me list of winners, I send devices" - without any restrictions. I also remember creating such limits during Council's discussions itself, so I have sneaky suspicions that there is some misunderstanding, as such limit was totally made up by Council (as for last device program).

Maybe it's good idea to ask, during today's Council meeting?

/Estel

Wonko

2012-09-28 06:43

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Morning all,

just got a ping from kojacker that the voting closed and the raw results can be downloaded.
Thanks a bunch for the notification. :)

I am right now getting the raw results and preparing the evaluation.
Will post the rankings asap.

With respect for the upcoming procedure.
I will evaluate the results as described in the Wiki and will post them here.

However, I propose that we treat these results as "preliminary" and leave some time for protest just in case someone has objections.
After, say one or two days, if no objections came up then these preliminary results can be considered verified and thus are the official final results.

Having said that, I encourage everyone to cross check the results.
Raw results, evaluation algorithm and software are all freely available (see the Wiki page).

So, going to do the evaluation right now. ;)

Wonko

2012-09-28 07:18

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There you are:

Code:

Coding Competition 2012 - Desktop, System, and Utilities

1 Saera

2 maecaltasks

3 widgets

4 KhtNotes

5 DingMee

6 PowEdit

7 timenow

8 ReferIt

9 USSD balance

10 modern computer flatboat

11 Server Status Widget

12 AlloCine

13 DoMee

14 VirtRanSim

15 KhtBMA

16 Wleux

17 ext2Manager

18 Sync Yourself

19 CountYourScores

20 Klippr

21 MeeWOD

22 FilmNotes

Code:

Coding Competition 2012 - Games, Graphics, and Multimedia

1 pcam

2 Alpha Strike

3 Crosswords

4 Instago

5 Lone Wolf

6 MaeLyrica

7 Nyan Cat

8 BlockMaster

9 Hits.

10 Square-It

11 Adventlands

12 Meemory

13 Math Bingo

14 TriQuick

15 Reaction Challenge

16 ThrowIn

17 Splat It

Code:

Coding Competition 2012 - Location and Navigation

1 meeTrainer

2 GeePS2

3 EnyTrip

4 Next BART

Code:

Coding Competition 2012 - Network and Communications

1 WifiTrans

2 User Agent Tool

3 genwall

4 Transmission Remote

5 HeySms

6 Bumblr

7 ServerMonitor

8 MoGateway

9 SMS Scheduler

10 MeegIM

11 IrsTerm

12 meeBay

13 syncgcontacts

14 ToggleWlanScan

Code:

Coding Competition 2012 - Other

1 MeeCoLay

2 SIM-Switcher

3 Pomodoro

4 BioPower

5 WPx Emulator

6 MeeGoal

7 Kana of The Day

8 NumboTime

9 Remove Sim Shorcut

10 Task Poach

11 QMetronome

Code:

Coding Competition 2012 - Updates and development on existing apps

1 modRana

2 ProfileMatic

3 N9 Quick Tweak

4 MeeDocs

5 Presence VNC

6 qMetro

7 Crazy Chickens game

8 Mieru

9 AutoCallSMS

10 TxPad QML

11 location2sms

12 Audiobook Reader

13 QNetMan2

14 CacheMe

15 redak

16 Blob

17 MiniBible

18 Puppy File Server

Code:

Coding Competition 2012 - Beginners

1 Alpha Strike

2 SIM-Switcher

3 meeTrainer

4 Crosswords

5 genwall

6 Puppy File Server

7 DingMee

8 AlloCine

9 Next BART

10 Task Poach

11 Hits

12 BlockMaster

13 ReferIt

14 Kana of The Day

15 ServerMonitor

16 ext2Manager

17 Server Status Widget

18 BioPower

19 syncgcontacts

20 MeeWOD

21 QMetronome

22 NumboTime

23 Math Bingo

24 Reaction Challenge

25 Sync Yourself

26 FilmNotes

Congratulations to all the ("preliminary"?) winners. :)

As posted before I propose that these results are treated as preliminary in order to allow protest in case there are objections.
After, say 24 or 48 hours, when there had been no protest or possible objections could be checked these results would then become the official final results.
I encourage everyone to cross-check these results.
I added the last places manually as the voting script does not print out the last place.

titilambert

2012-09-28 07:29

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HAHAHAHA !
5 th !!! I think i will cry ...
HAHAHAHA !

The life is dirty :D :D :D

Anyway, Thanks all !!!!

peterleinchen

2012-09-28 07:30

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OmG, unbelievable!
Thank you all for voting for that little piece of SW.
Really: I never expected that.

CONGRATS to all winners!

NB: is two second places one first? ;)

Khertan

2012-09-28 07:32

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For my case, i already own a n950, so no need of a second one but i accept an n9 (will be easier to test and deploy on clean final device applications)

sakya

2012-09-28 07:34

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Thank you all for voting Lone Wolf. :)

EDIT: And congrats to all the winners. ;)

Halftux

2012-09-28 07:53

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Oh I made it at least third place that's great.
Thank you all for voting. When I hold the Harmattan device in my hands I will port my application.

I am also fine if devices get changed. I like hardware keyboard more than a software keyboard. But I think many are willing to change N9 for N950. :D

Congratulation to all winners and thank you to all participants for the nice applications and big thanks to all people who are involved in organizing this competition.

peterleinchen

2012-09-28 08:31

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Hi kojacker,

I never really expected to make it second place in both categories.
But (as I did too much pro sports in earlier days) second winner is first looser ;)

I really would love to go away with a N950.
So if it matches somehow, that there is a N950 instead of a N9 available, I would say: Hey me me ! :D

Maybe it will be easier for you to sort it out for all winners if we open a new section in wiki where all winner post their wishes (e.g.khertan wants a N9).?

Regards
and thanks for all that work and enthusiasm.
peterleinchen

kojacker

2012-09-28 08:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 1273254)

There you are:
[...snip..]

Congratulations to all the ("preliminary"?) winners. :)

As posted before I propose that these results are treated as preliminary in order to allow protest in case there are objections.
After, say 24 or 48 hours, when there had been no protest or possible objections could be checked these results would then become the official final results.
I encourage everyone to cross-check these results.
I added the last places manually as the voting script does not print out the last place.

Thanks Wonko :) I feel pretty bad for those guys placed low down - I use and like some of those apps! You're all mean! :p

But I think it shows there really were a lot of great applications. So well done to everyone :)

What happens next is, as Wonko suggests, we'll give the results a day or two to settle. Sometime towards the end of the weekend I'll reach out to those in the top places with a view to allocating devices. Finally we'll settle the community bounty for those who have skipped a device/been placed in the runners up positions. Then we'll take stock of everything and see what we can do to make it better for you guys in 2013 ;)

Oh I nearly forgot! I believe we'll have one more prize still to be allocated for the best N900 app. That will be awarded after the main prizes are settled, so stay tuned for more news on that too ;)

If you'd like to check your vote or verify the votes as received you can see them all via the maemo.org/vote page. Simply go to there, chose which of the categories you'd like to see, and click the "list of all votes" link to see the breakdown. The vote is listed for each anonymous voter token.

Edit: I've had a question already about one application being more worthy than another but the vote reflects (I hope) what the community wishes to reward so it's hard to argue with that.

jukra

2012-09-28 08:43

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I must say that I'm a lucky bastard to read this great result using N900 while having a lunch =)

BioPower @ 4th place on Other category is better than I expected with such a marginal application. I am really really happy about this result!

Thank you all the people who voted for BioPower! You rock and really made my day!

Since I already have N9 at my disposal (though provided by my employee) I would like to have N950, if possible. If not, N9 is ok too considering that my personal N900 will eventually die.

Congratulations to other developers, too!

rash.m2k

2012-09-28 09:38

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Congrats to all that won!

I really wanted an N950 - but maybe next time?

cckwes

2012-09-28 09:39

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Thanks guys for voting WifiTrans in Network and Communications category. To thank all the users, I would like to make the application FREE from now on.

Thank you so much for the organizer, developers and users (voters) :)

P/S: originally WifiTrans is made to be free on this 2 weeks, now it will be free, FOREVER.......

Wikiwide

2012-09-28 09:59

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Modrana received the recognition it earned. Congatulations to Saera, WifiTrans and genwall, MeeCoLay and SIM-Switcher, qMetro and Kana of The Day, too.
I can only hope that some people might decline some of their awards, and eventually some numbers may be changed - fourteen is too dull, four or seven or thirteen or seventeen or forty two would be better.
I wonder, how many people have voted for my application? Looking up... Thirty four voters (of ninety five voters in this category) included Virtransim into their list, and of them only eight voters put VirtRanSim onto a place after fourteenth (places 21, 17, 21, 22, 18, 19, 20, 21); three voters put Virtransim onto the first place (myself one of the three voters). Not bad, considering that I have done no "advertising" of it.
Since I am hardly going to get a new device, I just have got to turn my device into an object of envy for others, in terms of functionality. And gluing it together is the first step...

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Originally Posted by cckwes (Post 1273312)

Thanks guys for voting WifiTrans in Network and Communications category. To thank all the users, I would like to make the application FREE from now on.
Thank you so much for the organizer, developers and users (voters) :)
P/S: originally WifiTrans is made to be free on this 2 weeks, now it will be free, FOREVER.......

Thank you.
Best wishes. Everlasting gratitude.

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