Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

installed everything..cant see a difference:(..still good to know about the effort of the developers not giving up on the n900. tks!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Compared to what?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

After last update something is wrong with busybox-power: ereswap says "iostat applet not found", yamas can't scan hosts etc.

I fix them by installing busybox-power from thumb repo by dpkg.
Link to good busybox-power http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/comm...umb0_armel.deb

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Had same issue with previous update, fixed in same way. After actual update problem didn' occured.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

..the other thumb before this update.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Aah, I thought that you're saying there is no difference compared to non-thumb :)

Well, don't expect miracles, with every release there are just a couple of thumb-compiled packages added, so the effect accumulates, it is not a jump. Though there is difference, launch camera-ui and compare the time it needs to show the preview with the time it needed before. Subjectively of course.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

i tried to reproduce the problem and checked for "/var/log/syslog" but wasn't there (i used the console option of the (great) backupmenu).
i tried to look for an explanation for this "framebuffer console driver" both in this forum and google, but haven't found anything - can someone point me to some commonly used guide?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

the camera-ui is a very good example: just tested it and it really seems faster. tks once again for allthe good work.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Say "thank You" to mainline (non-thumb) CSSU maintainers, who don't want to include busybox-power in CSSU, despite fact, that:

[rant]
a) it can't be distributed "properly" outside CSSU - current version in extras do binary file replacement via postinst script, so it will always cause problems in situations like we're facing now...

b) busybox-power is upstream busybox (with all bugfixes), ported to Maemo, with respect to Maemo-specific patches (i.e, no regressions, only benefits).
[/rant]
---

So, summing it up - send (valid) complains to CSSU team (so they'll have chance of putting them into /dev/null , sadly), as it have nothing to do with thumb.

/Estel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

@Estel - re rant: You may want to read #maemo-ssu logs after you've been kicked.

And please, don't move your war with joerg_rw here, this thread is very productive so far, lets not spoil it :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

I know what's the problem: merlin's repo doesn't have a label set. And I don't see any way to apt-pin it...

I notified merlin1991 about that.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

@michaaa62 - thanks pal, though I cannot imagine how a missing gpg key would lead to unbootable device. Would you elaborate?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

@freemangordon: Please do not mix those posts. The commands just fix the complaint of apt-get about unauthenticated packages in this post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=709 of llucax, nothing more, nothing less. That is, why i quoted the post i was referring to!
The commands have nothing to do with bootable or unbootable device.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Upgraded from thumb16 to 5.1thumb0.
Maemo unbootable. Reflashed.

The dots on boot did not appear, but the keyboard light went off when I slid down the screen (and on again when I slid it back up).

Before reflashing, I tried using RescueOS to see what went wrong, and I still have no clue what happened. Upstart's "system-services" and ipconfig weren't upgraded, but I doubt there were any changes those packages that made the system bomb out.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Just a wild guess, but did you follow the instructions here?:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=666

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

@freemangordon
re rant: sorry that it happened in Your thread :) My main goal was to explain, why it is not related to thumb flavor at all. No worries, no "war wish" there - it is just opinion, let alone fact, that I've totally lost interest in how mainline CSSU is going to be developed/maintained.
---

re constructive things:

After upgrading thumb via Your script (latest, fixed), package:
system-services

...is left as upgradeable (manually). Installed version is 0.3.8-67+0m5, while candidate for installation is 0.3.8-68+0cssu0.

I've ensured, that I had both community-testing and thumb repos enabled. It looks like package from mainline CSSU was left not upgraded, while using thumb upgrade script. Or is it just me?

/Estel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Yes, I used the script, run as root, not under sudo.

Also, reflashed and am running 5.1thumb0. All's well over here.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Same here.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

It was a problem of cssu-testing repo not enabled (only thumb one). It should be explicitly said that both repos are needed.

Btw. merlin replied, and pinning can be done by

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

@marmistrz From the first post: The 'here' links the .install file which includes the directions for HAM to add two repos, thumb2 and cssu-testing.

[Deepest_of_Voice]Even the wisest are encouraged to read some and remember, what they themselves changed over the course, again and again![/Deepest_of_Voice];)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Indeed, it adds both repos :)
And I was wondering why a dialog about cssu testing repo is displayed :))

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

IIRC, freemangordon explicitly stated, (in post announcing update) that one need *both* community-testing (cssu-testing) and thumb repos enabled. So, it's rather about "read with understanding". No offense :)

/Estel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

CSSU Thumb is based on CSSU Testing != You need both repos. There might be all the stuff in one repo :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Nokia-N900:~# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
libeet1 libqtm-12 libqtm-12-bearer libqtm-12-connectivity
libqtm-12-contacts libqtm-12-declarative libqtm-12-feedback
libqtm-12-gallery libqtm-12-location libqtm-12-messaging
libqtm-12-multimedia libqtm-12-organizer libqtm-12-publishsubscribe
libqtm-12-sensors libqtm-12-serviceframework libqtm-12-systeminfo
libqtm-12-versit
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded.
Nokia-N900:~#

this is d output from xterm...what seems to be wrong...?and for awhile i get connection refused on trying to connect to the repos,yappari and some appz...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Finally decided to install thumb after monitoring the progress for some time. Was wondering if there's been any progress on fennec 17 as talk around it has gone quiet lately.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Please try to give the output of to look for blocking packages.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

this is it

Nokia-N900:~# dpkg -l | grep qtm
ii libqtm-12 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Experimental QtMobility metapackage
ii libqtm-12-bearer 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility Bearer module
ii libqtm-12-connectivity 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility Connectivity module
ii libqtm-12-contacts 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility contacts module
ii libqtm-12-declarative 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility Declarative module
ii libqtm-12-feedback 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility Feedback module
ii libqtm-12-gallery 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility Document Gallery module
ii libqtm-12-location 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility location module
ii libqtm-12-messaging 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility messaging module
ii libqtm-12-multimedia 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility multimedia module
ii libqtm-12-organizer 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility Organizer module
ii libqtm-12-publishsubscribe 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility publish and subscribe module
ii libqtm-12-sensors 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility service framework module
ii libqtm-12-serviceframework 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility service framework module
ii libqtm-12-systeminfo 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility system information module
ii libqtm-12-versit 1:1.2.0-0fn~fremantle3 Qt Mobility versit module
ii libqtm-bearer 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility Bearer module
ii libqtm-contacts 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility contacts module
ii libqtm-feedback 1.2.1+193+0m6 Dummy package for libqtm-feedback
ii libqtm-location 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility location module
ii libqtm-messaging 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility messaging module
ii libqtm-multimedia 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility multimedia module
ii libqtm-publishsubscribe 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility publish and subscribe module
ii libqtm-sensors 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility sensors framework module
ii libqtm-serviceframework 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility service framework module
ii libqtm-systeminfo 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility system information module
ii libqtm-versit 1:1.0.2-maemo4+0m5+0cssu1+thumb2 Qt Mobility versit module
ii qtm-maemo-metapackage 1.3-2+0m5 Qt Mobility meta package update for Maemo
ii qtm-modest-plugin 0.0.2-6+0m5 Qt-Mobility Plugin for Modest
ii qtmobilehotspot 0.3.5 Turn your N900 into a Wifi/USB hotspot !

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Looks okay!
Did you try to manually install the packages and thus upgrading them?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

i did and I get the conflicting package issues..

Nokia-N900:~# apt-get install libqtm-12 libqtm-12-bearer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libqtm-12: Conflicts: libqtm-12-bearer
E: Broken packages
Nokia-N900:~#

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Try to remove libqtm-12, BUT keep track if packages will get also removed to install them later again.
then upgrade,
then reinstall libqtm-12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=666

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

why apt-get upgrade? why not using the script?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

that did the trick...thanks bro...but on the issue of getting connection refused when connecting to the repo,yapari,and some other appz,how do one evade this

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Just to let you know, I have updated to latest Thumb about a week ago using above link and no problems so far. Thanks for your hard work freemangordon!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

I have stated it on IRC but have to write it also here.

Thumb from freemangordon is the best thing in the world (of course after sliced bread) for the N900 :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Having recently migrated to thumb2, I'd like to test fennec 17.0a1, but I have a segfault after "content loaded" is printed in my terminal.
I can think of two things that may cause this:

First, ldd /opt/fennec/*.so|grep found gives me the following relevant lines:
/opt/fennec-17.0a1/libnss3.so: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libnssutil3.so: version `NSSUTIL_3.13' not found (required by /opt/fennec-17.0a1/libnss3.so)
/opt/fennec-17.0a1/libsoftokn3.so: libmozsqlite3.so => not found

Second, I have libqtm-12 1.2.0+git20111104-0nd~fremantle5 installed: is it the right version to use or should I downgrade to another version ?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Remove /home/user/.mozilla/fennec directory and try again to run fennec. And make sure you don't run it as root

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

already done, and it did not change anything

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

freemangordon, bumping in case You have missed it:
Any info on *not* upgraded package, that I've listed 2 posts ago (and that was confirmed by another user)?

See:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=737

And:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=739