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daperl 2013-08-29 00:42

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Nokias post-Elop motto should be:

"Why have 60% market share when you could have 3%"

geektech 2013-08-29 01:55

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Amazing! A two year old phone beating the flag ships Lumias on daily hits.

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-3398.php

Lumiaman 2013-08-29 03:04

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Amazing!!!! Jolla phone is not even registered on the social trends.......sorry...but Lumias do trump N9...even a dumb lumia 520 beats it hands down

http://www.google.com/trends/explore...%20n900&cmpt=q

Lumiaman 2013-08-29 03:07

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
[QUOTE=daperl;1370285]Nokias post-Elop motto should be:

"Why have 60% market share when you could have 3%"[/

"Why flood the market with prehistoric operating systems that many didnt even consider smartphones, when few good quality phones will suffice"

ranbaxy 2013-08-29 06:07

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Reading this thread is fun :D I do it every morning :cool:

daperl 2013-08-29 07:06

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
The Lumia 800: -$5
The Lumia 900: -$10

Both of them being left behind by WP8: Priceless!

Other Nokia mottos:

"With partners like Microsoft, who needs nuclear fallout"

or:

"Our Windows RT tablet won't be written down until 2015!"

Artyom 2013-08-29 10:53

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1370280)
Arseeeee.......how you doing today? Did you check in with your psychiatrist?

Im very fine lameiaman. have you checked in lately? Maybe they can solve the talk like a broken record and i only answer what suits my book problems of yours.

Artyom 2013-08-29 10:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ranbaxy (Post 1370299)
Reading this thread is fun :D I do it every morning :cool:

It relieves the stress.

Lumiaman 2013-08-29 12:14

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1370305)
The Lumia 800: -$5
The Lumia 900: -$10

Both of them being left behind by WP8: Priceless!

Other Nokia mottos:

"With partners like Microsoft, who needs nuclear fallout"

or:

"Our Windows RT tablet won't be written down until 2015!"


Here is few more Craper

"Better grave than Android slave"

"We will let Amdroid be so open, and spy on your every move"

switch-hitter 2013-08-29 12:27

Re: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1370278)
But why not? According to you Symbian is the strongest OS in the history of mankind. Symbian still rules the world in 2/3 of your brain.
So why wouldnt King of Symbian resurrect it????? OH my....I guess Symbian wasnt that hot after all.

Your total lack of comprehension is really quite remarkable.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1370034)
"Already in 2005 and 2006 it was obvious for some people that Symbian is an old and outdated platform. Adding an effective touchscreen user interface to Symbian would have been challenging"

You do know Windows Phone 7 was a touch UI underpinned by the 'old', 'outdated', 'prehistoric' Windows CE, right? Not nearly as 'new and nascent' as you imagined, huh?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1370204)
Michael's point is interesting as he pushes the fork in the road much earlier than 2005 and 2006, and above comment probably refers to the Symbian that was available in 2005 and 2006. Nonetheless, he makes interesting points in pretty much pushing the blame to pre-2005 NOKIA.

You're getting terribly excited at discovering NOKIA pre-Elop made an unfathomable decision about which UI layer to use on top of Symbian. I imagine most everybody else here already knew that. Not only did NOKIA have S90 and Hildon but when the Symbian Foundation was formed in 2008 Motorola and Sony Ericsson contributed UIQ and NTT DoCoMo contributed MOAP(S). As I've explained to you before Symbian had touch support built in right back to the days it was called EPOC32 and ran on Psion PDAs. Who knows why NOKIA's management decided S60 would remain the primary UI layer, it's hard to imagine what the logic might have been.

Anyhow, like most of the criticism of Symbian (the UI, the browser, the email client, etc...) this issue had nothing to do with Symbian per se. Symbian could have coped perfectly well with a high quality touch UI if NOKIA had only provided it with one.

But guess what? NOKIA did eventually get the gig - they bought Qt. The Qt framework was to be added to Symbian^3 and recommended as the primary target for developers. Symbian^4 would have a whole new touch UI based on QWidget. Not only that but Qt would provide a common development framework for all NOKIA's devices irrespective of OS. The fact Qt was a superset of C++ also meant it could be used to target other platforms that weren't NOKIA's too, which could make NOKIA's SDK the first port of call for any developers who wanted to target multiple platforms from one codebase.

Finally, NOKIA had a top notch plan - a high quality touch UI, a great cross-platform development framework, the SDK was in beta and shaping up nicely, they even had Python bindings in development, then... just as their new strategy is reaching the point it could bear fruit, they revert to type and do something unfathomably stupid again. In fact exclusively adopting Windows Phone was a whole new level of stupidity.


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