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daperl 2013-08-29 18:18

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$4.02 and rising like bread......

Say what?

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daperl 2013-08-29 18:24

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SELL! SELL! SELL!

Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK) Is A “Value Trap”: Deutsche Bank

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Deutsche Bank analysts believe Nokia Corporation (NOK) will just continue burning through its cash pile until it’s gone.
Nokia Corporation (NYSE:NOK) (BIT:NOK1V) (HEL:NOK1V) is still in trouble, if analysts at Deutsche Bank are to be believed. They call the company a “value trap” and said it appears as if the company’s gross margins have peaked and revenues are declining. As a result, they see “unfavorable risk / reward” in Nokia.

Nokia still burning cash

Analysts Kai Korschelt and Johannes Schaller issued a research note to investors saying that the bullish scenarios provided through a sum of the parts are “too optimistic.” They said another restructuring could be in the company’s future, and the cost of that restructuring could add up to about €600 million.

The analysts said in addition to restructuring costs, Nokia Corporation (NYSE:NOK) (BIT:NOK1V) (HEL:NOK1V)’s E1 per share in net cash could run out by the end of next year, largely thanks to the ongoing cash burn in the company’s Devices segment. They said once that cash runs out, the major value angle to the stock disappears.

Lumiaman 2013-08-29 18:29

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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1370508)

One man's analyst negative outlook, is another man's opportunity to buy below true value. NOKIA is pumping them phones. Go Noki!

cr0c0 2013-08-29 19:00

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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1370510)
One man's analyst negative outlook, is another man's opportunity to buy below true value. NOKIA is pumping them phones. Go Noki!

Dude, Nokia may be "pumping them phones" but almost nobody is buying them. I keep reading your posts, and every time I wonder what are you smoking. The bottom line is Nokia is done unless they change direction, and as long as Elop is in control that's not happening.

There may be hope, as bookies have him as a favourite to replace Balmer at Microsoft.

felipec 2013-08-29 21:12

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You don't understand that every decision he made was approved by the board. You must have flunked your business school.

You are dumber than a bag of hammers. There's a reason he is the executive officer, the board leaves most decisions to him, only a tiny bit of them have to be run through the board.

Lumiaman 2013-08-29 21:25

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Originally Posted by felipec (Post 1370534)
You are dumber than a bag of hammers. There's a reason he is the executive officer, the board leaves most decisions to him, only a tiny bit of them have to be run through the board.

you are so dumb, your mama wished she dropped you off someones doorsteps. he would be without a job if he didnt get board's approval for his actions. not only that, its his legal shield, by having the board sign off new directions and initiatives. and the last time i checked, its an almost all Finnish board. if you should blame anyone, blame the board.

Lumiaman 2013-08-29 21:26

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Dude, Nokia may be "pumping them phones" but almost nobody is buying them. I keep reading your posts, and every time I wonder what are you smoking. The bottom line is Nokia is done unless they change direction, and as long as Elop is in control that's not happening.

There may be hope, as bookies have him as a favourite to replace Balmer at Microsoft.

now that is an interesting thought. Elop at MS. For that to happen, he will want NOKIA to continue making phones for WP8 platform. How will he accomplish that?

Artyom 2013-08-30 18:05

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the tags on this topic are hilarious.

daperl 2013-08-30 18:12

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Tasty!

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mikecomputing 2013-08-30 18:22

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Jolla stock 2014:

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