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Reporting for what? The guy is expressing his opinions in a very collegial fashion. Nobody has to agree on everyone's position.

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The irony that WP7 is sitting at 2% yet users like my mother are the 99% means there is a disconnect somewhere.

And that disconnect is what gives Nokia such a low stock price and such low sales.

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Symbian shares are much less than that. So NOKIA is doing something right in the US. They have only started selling Lumias in spring, and already have more share in the smarphone market than symbian ever did.

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USB MS is also one of my requirements. Having to use a custom piece of software just to transfer files is pathetic.

I also want USB OTG.

Bluetooth file transfer is important too. I'd imagine NOKIA's customers in countries with unpleasant, unelected regimes would find this particularly important.

In fact I want full bluetooth connectivity to any device.

I must be able to specify which access point the phone is going to use when I connect to the internet.

My phone must be able to recieve a text whilst I'm composing one without wiping out what I've typed so far.

I also like Python on my smartphones.

Navigation shouldn't require a data connection either.

I want an SD card slot.

I want a file manager.

I want to be able to sideload my own applications on my own device without needing third-party approval.

I want HDMI out.

In 2010 NOKIA could deliver all that, sadly they've gone backwards in every way since then. Back then I would have expected by now we'd have excellent new MeeGo devices with super hardware and even more power and functionality, I would be moving on from Symbian with barely a backward glance.

It's sad to see such degradation and decay that NOKIA are now turning out 'smart' phones that are arguably less functional than their feature phones.

The design of the Lumia's hardware is so handsome and so stylish and they've been very widely marketed, NOKIA devices also have a good reputation for their durability and longevity so the Lumias should be selling really well but they're not. You need to stop and ask yourself why, what's the problem?


What would be the point? I could say 'smooth' like you do (ad nauseam) but the fact is they're functionally such limited devices that I, like the overwhelming majority of smartphone customers it seems, wouldn't be interested in buying one.

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You represent the less than 1% users, and you are, as a user, irrelevant to NOKIA stock. Why arent they selling better: the answer is simple, competition is much tougher. I have never used android, but in my use of iphone, and seeing how many people love the closed apple system, it is the system to beat, if you are looking at the stock prices. Lumia devices just began selling in US (spring), and have gathered some recognition and share. This is good as Symbian was impotent in the US. For NOKIA to succeed they did the right thing in ditching Symbian and Meego. WP will be a long term success, from the smoothness and basic functionalities that 99% want

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Symbian share in the US - a minor market compared to Europe, India, Asia and even Africa - is not a good indicator of Nokia's sales. Not even for the last 5 years.

I mean, seriously... Nokia hasn't sold 2% in Japan in ages - probably hyperbole, but close enough since Nokia has a minor presence there and does no advertising there.

Anyway, it's high time to eschew your egocentric ways and see that the US market was never going to be enough to "save" Nokia. And referring back to Symbian, a minor player in the North American market isn't helping your point. It's enforcing that Nokia didn't invest in those areas because they didn't want to engage with the monopolistic carriers and still without doing so, held the mobile crown for 14 years.

Simply stated, the US market is too small and too controlled by AT&T and Verizon to be something worth anybody's time that plays by their rules. Sorta why it was cool to see Apple play by their own rules and get away with it, and how Samsung didn't fall to the prior SGS whims of the US carriers and create multiple versions of the same phone.

Instead the SGS3 is basically one version for all US carriers. They've gotten that much traction in this area.

Anyway, stop using the US market. Look at the world market. Symbian's been on the decline since 2007 basically.

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83% of statistics are made up on the spot.

If you had used Android you'd know Symbian can compete. Extra functionality adds extra complexity, this is something both Android and Symbian have to deal with that iOS doesn't.

Android outsells iPhone now. Android on Samsung alone outsells iPhone now.
For NOKIA trying to be Apple is suicide. Forget Apple, Samsung and Android is the real competition.

So NOKIA have sacrificed bigger markets like China and Europe in order to gain a handful of sales in North America? How is that 'succeeding' or 'doing the right thing'?

Clearly the Lumias don't have what the '99%' want, they only seem to have what the 2% want.

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Dude. My figures say 83.7%... must be a bad conversion from inches to liters or something metric like that.

This. It never made sense to me.

I was in Lenox Square in Atlanta just yesterday. Walked past the Apple store, it was packed full of people. Walked past the Microsoft store, they had folks at the door asking if we'd like to come in and the store was pretty silent and empty.

Not even Microsoft users seem to want the WP7 based phones.

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NTT DoCoMo did offer their own range of Symbian phones though, until Elop... well you know.

Now of course they've changed to Android.


I really don't know what it is that Apple have at the moment, I think it's something intangible. When you see those queues of people camping overnight outside the Apple stores when a new product is released and then whooping and cheering when the staff appear in the morning and strut up and down the line waving their arms in the air, it's absolutely bizarre.

It's really quite interesting to watch, it must be some weird kind of hysteria.

I certainly don't think it's something NOKIA could recreate. I think Samsung's success is built on something much more concrete and reproducable.

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apple has what nokia had 7 years ago and something new will have 7 years from now. Simple always something new and cooler ahead. Sit tight.