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The last two are made by Apple.

You're welcome.

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Yet even though these devices repeatedly don't do what you want, you keep buying them? More money than sense or just a bit simple then?
Didn't you thought about trying them to see if they do what you want? no?

Well, when I bought my nokia I had already tried the demo 800 on the stand, and before I bought the iPod touch I tried one of those out too. And I bought them because they did what I wanted.
But you couldn't be bothered to see if they worked for you so you decide to just buy them and stamp your little feet and throw them out of the pram when they don't? Life must be disappointing for you!

Ahh, ok, so you post a message on a nokia IT forum because you don't want nokia fans to respond. Well, the best way to do that would have been to just not post wouldn't it?
No, because you want nokia fanbois to be all offended.

So would I. But most people here paid full price and are perfectly happy, as they got the device they wanted.

Well, I am sure we were all desperately disappointed to not hear more of your wisdom.

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testerj,
As a member of the technocracy I'm very happy with my N800. I would also like to take the time to say how much I appreciate you posting this nice message telling Nokia that you're no longer a customer of theirs and that they shouldn't take your feelings into account when designing future Internet Tablets. For a while I was worried that Nokia was going to sacrifice the loyalty of their geek following to try and compete in the mainstream (read: idiot proof) gadget market. It's helpful comments like yours that I hope will keep Nokia focused on their core market: us geeks and "fanbois." I'm sorry that you didn't do an appropriate amount of research before buying a product you didn't understand. I'm fairly sure that "caveat emptor" still applies with regards to the purchasing of consumer electronics. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
-John
PS: This is what happens when you catch me before my coffee on a Sunday morning. :P

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I love threads like this :)

I always thought the Nokia n800 hardware was really great. My complaints are always that there is not sufficient software to put on the n800 (or at least add easily) to put the n800 to its full use. I know I am a total broken record on this point, but the n800 should have had a pim software. I know people disagree with me, but that is what I think. Plus, I think (not 100% sure) that Nokia owns a company that makes software that syncs vaious types of pim software. This is a major missing piece to me, as is the lack of ability to read and write ms word since ms word is the business standard.

All this said, I will probably buy the n810 :)

p.s. the eee pc has very good software

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my 2 cents. you cant have bleeding edge technology and reliability at the same. time.
Only now is the 770 becoming a solid product. and its totaly wondefull

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Ooh... VGA screen, Pocket Internet Explorer browser - best of luck with that, I certainly wouldn't recommend it as a worthy web browsing replacement for a 770, it's a categorical downgrade (speaking as someone who owns an HP iPAQ HX4700 VGA Win Mobile 5 device, and Win Mob 6 isn't much improved over Win Mob 5). Basically my HX4700 - which is 4 years old - is the same spec as your planned HP 210. Trust me, don't do it! :)

Why not wait for OS 2008 HE to surface (with Mozilla based browser etc. and soon to appear Modest email client) before laying out $450 and taking a step backwards, technologically speaking? :)

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You're right. I can probably buy an HX4700 for half the price of a 210. Thanks!!!

Ron G

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@tabletrat, I've never seen an IT in a store. Makes it a bit hard to play with one first. I got mine straight from the Nokia site.

They do hype up the IT's abilities a bit on the site, but it's pretty good hardware. Now we're just waiting for the software to catch up. Hopefully the next os release will fix a few things.

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Hello Nokia,

MY N800 worked *brilliantly* out of the box and I've never had a serious problem (well, if you don't count misplacing the magnet:eek: I use it every day, and my laptop has not been out of the bottom drawer of my desk in a year.

I'd buy an N95 if I could. :rolleyes:

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I actually did do some research, didn't have the opportunity to demo one in store, couldn't order one from nokia over the phone only from the site so I purchased it from a 3rd party store that actually shipped one over from Europe.

Maybe you don't care that video's don't render properly, maybe you don't care that you have to download 5 video players to actually find one that will play your video, but like I said all you every day techie's and fanboys don't have a problem with that and you are ever so wrong if you can't work out that you where never the market Nokia intended to buy this device and the only reason why it was never mass marketed is because it had hardly anything to talk about that could be definitely conveyed as working properly because most software released and even the firmware update was pretty much alpha versions anyhow.

I can say I like having wi-fi, sucks that any site thats worth looking at displays really crappy even if the graphics do look ok, it's choppy and can't even render videos without stuttering like it's disabled. And then to top off this wonderful piece of hardware with alpha software, Nokia releases the N810 to those who want to feel like they are actually purchasing something better.

And for the dude that said oh you bought an n-gage and then you bought an internet tabled, my n-gage was great in theory but I had to send it in for service and with-in a week of getting it back it broke again... The n800 was released a couple of years later, maybe after reviewing review sites I went and purchased one thinking I had a truely web-enabled tablet, hell I would have paid another couple of hundred dollars for it.. but it's a POS out of the box.

Have I found unique ways to use my n800 to make it somewhat worth what I paid for it... kinda... I use it to remotely connect to my PC through my wireless router when I am working from home because I like to use 2 flatscreens to work from home when I am working at the help desk... but really I am basically using my own computer on it... I will take it travelling with me on my next trip, but only because my laptop backlight went (from HP after 13 months) guess even though marketed as a gaming laptop it couldn't handle games truely... just another example of products like this.

Basically if I am spending $400/500 on a device, I expect that I can get some good worth of it out of the box... You may all feel like you got something worth having I still can't equate it to much... And you know I may just consider a windows mobile product, I actually thought for a moment you Linux developers where actually getting properly supported by Nokia, but you are basically like jailbirds on bread and water... because if you where properly supported you'd actually be supported to make your own applications instead of porting everyone elses.

I am not on here to make friends, I am just here to explain facts and what I expect, yes Nokia has lost me as a future customer already... And although this was geared towards everyday people all you nokia fanboys had to respond didn't you!

As much as some may feel that I have no respect for software developers for the IT you are wrong, it's my feeling that you have not been respected by Nokia enough, which is why I have an Internet Tablet that was marketed to do much more than it ever could out of the box.

Hopefully some other companies will come to the market and start releasing IT with some good stuff... I actually think the n800 puts the Iphone/Itouch to shame, try watching CNN on an itouch, it's even worse than the n800... I am glad there are alternatives and when I next go out to buy a handheld device, I learnt my lesson.

Good on you Nokia for your game plan, I hope its working out for you and by your sales records for this device it's really showing just how amazing it's been.

Good devices don't need much marketing because they speak for themself..

It's too bad because the IT could have been much better and I think that in time Nokia will eventually release a good device... just a little too late...