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Laughing Man 2008-01-11 18:13
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
It's not that bad, you just have to set the settings for it to watch the internal and/or external SD cards. Which is just an eye for watch (but that's confusing to most people I suspect).

Album Art wise yeah it's a pain, I use Kagu and another program for a media center though (yeah I have three different media centers installed if you include the Canola beta lol). One of those offers automatic fetching of album work.

As for the icons, I've never had a problem hitting them. They're nicely finger sized. However, I like the graphite theme but the back button (or escape button..or whatever you wanna call it) doesn't work for me. :(

scottyb159 2008-01-11 19:03
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
I am new to all of this. I tried a few videos with each last night. The built in player was the only one that worked without a problem when I used the Nokia converter. Canola looks really nice but was choppy with the same video

koolpappyp 2008-01-11 19:20
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
Ei yi yi!!!!!:confused:

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album art works perfect for me , i wrote a guide on how to do it correctlyif youd like it just pm me with your email addy.
Munky261: Thanks, I'll take you up on your offer if I go in that direction.
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The only real usability issues with the Canola 2 beta for me are:

Album art and video thumbnailing are impossible to use for an inexperienced user; and even for experienced users the results are sub-optimal IME.
No pre-configuration for the known media directories: /media/mmc2/Video, /home/user/MyDocs/{.sounds,.images,.videos} - this means a new user won't see any media found at all, with no explanation.
The icons in the green theme are all round, and have no distinct outline making them very hard to distinguish intuitively. The graphite theme gets this right.
Seems like the final release of Canola 2 would hopefully resolve these "issues"?

All these posts have benn increadibley helpful. Wish the decision was as easy.:) No one seems inamored with Mediabox, humm.

Thanks to all!! BTW, how do you post a thanks, just can't seem to find it.

aflegg 2008-01-11 21:02
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
I like Mediabox; I'm just tending to use the built-in media player more (have a few MP4 files I've downloaded which Media Player likes more than mplayer, IIRC).

Mediabox certainly has the best implementation of kinetic scrolling, although is a little unstable (seems much more stable when run from a command line, <geek>so this is probably a trivial osso_initialise bug</geek>).

Mediabox's semi-transparent clock is also very stylish.

I wish more respected folders for videos, rather than putting them all in one big long list. I don't like episodes of Thomas & Friends getting in the way of Doctor Who ;-)

koolpappyp 2008-01-11 22:37
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
Thanks.
Mediabox uses mplayer as it's core as I think I understand. So I think what you are saying is Media Player for some videos and Mediabox for others. Sort of trial and error to get the right mix and match.

What puzzles me somewhat is that one member said they used Canola 2 for some videos and got jumpy video and using Media Player gave better results. But doesn't Canola use Media Player as its core? So why any difference?

So silly me thought this was going to be easy!!!!!!

Maybe in future releases the Mediabox stability and MP4 issues will be addressed.

And to think, all I wanted to do is download the consensus best player, a Newbie hope on my part.

These posts have been very illuminating, hopefully it will eventually lead to me actually installing something and "ta ta", USE IT!!

koolpappyp 2008-01-12 03:06
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
I just loaded Canola 2 and Mediabox. Canola seems to worl well, mplayer works well, but mediabox says it's loading, then nothing, Just stays at the boot screen. Everything on the N800 still works but no Mediabox. Whazzzzzzzzzzzupppppp?:confused:

Canola takes some fooling around to get to the audio/video, but I eventually figured most of it out to satisfy me that it was very usable.

Mplayer works as a standalone too.

Well, there you are wanted to know the bst media player and end up loading three of them and one diodn't work.

now to play with them and see which one performs best for me.

Thanks for the help.:D

pycage 2008-01-13 19:08
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aflegg (Post 125743)
Mediabox certainly has the best implementation of kinetic scrolling, although is a little unstable (seems much more stable when run from a command line, <geek>so this is probably a trivial osso_initialise bug</geek>).
I'd like to hear more about this instability issue when not running from command line.

I run MediaBox in both ways (release versions launched from the app menu, development versions launched via Terminal from SD card) and haven't noticed any difference in stability so far.

aflegg 2008-01-13 20:01
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pycage (Post 126875)
I'd like to hear more about this instability issue when not running from command line.

I run MediaBox in both ways (release versions launched from the app menu, development versions launched via Terminal from SD card) and haven't noticed any difference in stability so far.
Sorry, I thought I'd reported it.

Running current OS 2008 on an N810. When run from the application menu, it usually quits after a couple of minutes. No "Loading MediaBox..." infoprint is shown, which is usually an indicator that the system hasn't received the expected DBUS registration, so kills the app. It doesn't seem to be dependent on what I'm doing, e.g. switch to the clock screen - hoping to use it as a clock at night, and wait. I thought it was connected to screen dimming (timeout is set to 2 mins), but it's not.

The same quit doesn't occur when run from the command line.

pycage 2008-01-14 21:40
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aflegg (Post 126909)
Sorry, I thought I'd reported it.

Running current OS 2008 on an N810. When run from the application menu, it usually quits after a couple of minutes. No "Loading MediaBox..." infoprint is shown, which is usually an indicator that the system hasn't received the expected DBUS registration, so kills the app. It doesn't seem to be dependent on what I'm doing, e.g. switch to the clock screen - hoping to use it as a clock at night, and wait. I thought it was connected to screen dimming (timeout is set to 2 mins), but it's not.

The same quit doesn't occur when run from the command line.
Thanks.
Could you please run the following in a terminal and tell me if there are errors:
Code:
python -c "import osso"
Code:
python -c "import hildon"
If one of these imports fail, then MediaBox thinks it runs on a standard desktop and does not initialize OSSO. This might cause your problem.

aflegg 2008-01-14 22:48
Re: Mediabox or Mplayer?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pycage (Post 127702)
Code:
python -c "import osso"
As you suspected, the OSSO bindings aren't installed. Sounds like a "Depends:" bug?

BTW, any plans to speed up the "Looking for media files" using some kind of cache (without the addition of another media scanning tool)? Are last modified dates on directories reliable enough?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Andrew


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