Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

No for some other reason; I don't use a cell phone. I've never needed one and won't for a while.

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

"I don't want to see my phone's screen on my tablet, I can see my phone's screen on my phone just fine. I want my phone and my pocket computer to share the same data automatically."

Yes, I know you can do it on the phone. But I think you are missing my point (the pluses if it was easy and seamless).

There is no need to sync. you already have full access to the phone.

You can use the qwerty keyboard for typing text messages etc.

You can cut and paste between phone and Tablet

You don't need to juggle both devices. e.g. You could transfer a photo from one to other while only handling the one device.

If you are using a bluetooth headset for example, you would never really need to take the phone out of your pocket (except for non phone functions). Almost like only having one device :)

Zuber

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

Hmmm... Point conceded. Nevertheless, the Itablets score abysmally on any point related to sharing data with a phone.

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

Agreed :)

Not going anywhere fast, hence my suggestion. GIVE UP and VNC the phone instead. Needs someone that knows what they are doing to get it to work over bluetooth instead of wifi though...

I might try and spend a bit of time on this and see how well it works. Maybe fire up a little more interest in it.

Zuber

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

Hmm. it seems I should've added some more options for the 'no, other reason' voters, like:

- I live in a country where phones are generally sold with a 1 or 2 year contract, and I don't want the contract.
- If wimax comes a n810 sized device will function as my phone.
- I prefer my phone to be as small and cheap as possible and I don't need to have tablet functionality with me all the time.
- I am a luddite and I don't want a phone :D

Still it is interesting to see that around one quarter of the voters, who I assume have bought an Internet Tablet, would rather have one device.

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

I want separate devices because while I have a cell phone, I don't use it frequently and usually have it turned off and leave it in my bag, so that I'm not interrupted. However, I use my N810 all the time - keep it always on and in my pocket.

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

I'm a "No, for other reasons"

Cell data plans are notorious for long contracts, hight cost, and borderline abusive TOS. I can get low speed data for free through any one of several methods if a device supports BT. For a very low cost I can get EVDO speeds as well if I wished. It's all about knowing how to play your cards in the pre-pay market. "Smart" phones are not smart enough to let you get away with these "work arounds". The 770 allowed me to see what was possible, unfortunately without even basic syncing/PDA functionality it was useless to me.

For me, right now, the perfect device would be the iPod touch if it had BT ( assuming it could use the DUN BT profile for internet ). That would be a dream, but one dream I doubt Apple will ever fulfill. I will never buy an iPhone, I'm not locking myself into a 2 year contract that will have me paying out nearly $60/month more than I'm paying now for cell service.

What it comes down to is I refuse to pay a monthly fee for what is, in essence, a toy. Therefore I need to keep my phone plan separate from any tablet/internet device. If the phone allows for the device to get online that's a bonus, but one that I'm not counting on.

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

I want separate devices because if the Internet Tablets were phones (assuming no non-phone versions available), what happens if it's picked up by a different provider than who you currently have service with? Even if it's not tied to a single provider (like the Satan-Phone is with AT&T) you're still tied to a single technology, either GSM or CDMA. I shouldn't have to, nor will I change providers every time a cellphone company comes out with the latest and greatest phone. If I did I'd be changing providers every 3 months.

BTW, I'm not opposed to the iPhone, per-say, I just think it's overpriced, over-hyped, and too many (though not all) of the people I've seen with them seem to think I should bow before them because they're special enough to have one. On the plus side, even though the internet tablets aren't really meant to be a competitor to the iPhone, everyone makes that comparison anyways so it gives me a chance to point out how my N810 (0r even the 770 for that matter) does almost everything better than the iPhone.

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

Still the problem is a failing telecom market in the USA rather than having to do something with hardware. I guess we are lucky in Europe in this respect. On the other hand wimax seems to be rolled out sooner than here.

Re: Seperate phone versus all-in-one
 

what's the problem with integrating cdma/tdma or gsm into this device? Make it switchable to conserve power (like bt)...and the user can choose whether or not they want to use it and pay for a service.

I'd gladly trade an sd slot or stupid flip out keyboard for the ability to make a phone call or send a text message...especially when i'm out of wifi range and have to tether to my phone to do anything.

regardless of size, i'd rather be carrying one device instead of two...