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Since P2P traffic can use varying ports and encryption, I think this would be unenforceable.

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I think it's a LITTLE over the top to compare DRM to the holocaust...

:eek:

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Reminds me of this poem:
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Re: Leaked ACTA Treaty Will Outlaw P2P
 

It would be a lot of prosecutions as I don't think it is possible to buy a non-multi-region DVD in the UK!

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You are basically right, but the main concept (nobody cares until it's too late) is the same.
You know, big things started as small things.

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http://www.eff.org/

Sunlight for ACTA check it out

Re: Leaked ACTA Treaty Will Outlaw P2P
 

And I thought they were abandoning regions anyway, because it encouraged people to download pirated versions?

Re: Leaked ACTA Treaty Will Outlaw P2P
 

I read the "leaked" document. It is only a 4 page outline highlighting the goals of the agreement. Nowhere does it say anything about banning P2P networks or the LEGAL sharing of information, etc. The target of any ban is illegal activity rather than the technologies used to propagate that activity.

Although I am against the erosion of civil liberties, this measure is designed to protect the intellectual property rights of the owners of the works (software, music, videos, etc.) in question. In other words, if you are not stealing other's works, then there is not much that you should be afraid of. I believe that the RIAA did mess up in prosecuting children for downloading music, but the fact remains that the children in question WERE illegally downloading the music.

I fully believe that we need to monitor treaties such as these to protect our rights, but we should not be surprised to find out that we do not have the right to steal electronically.

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But what about banning multi-region DVD players? How is it stealing if people want to watch legally purchased DVDs from another part of the world?


I totally agree that piracy is wrong. I think what annoys people though is when DRM measures significantly punish those who play by the rules, while those who pirate get a much less restricted product.

For example the Amazon Kindle device lets you buy books in electronic format, but it's a format that can't be used on other similar devices, so it's forcing me to read my e-books on a particular line of products. And if Amazon stop making those products and my Kindle breaks, the books are gone forever.

Another annoying thing: I can transfer my CDs to my tablet without any problem at all, but DVDs have a DRM system which prevents easy transfers. There's software which lets you by-pass the DRM, but this may or may not be legal. Pirates have no trouble transferring video files, so why do legal owners like me face restrictions?

Re: Leaked ACTA Treaty Will Outlaw P2P
 

I re-read the document again, and do not see anything that mentions banning multi-region DVD players....

I understand the frustration you have expressed with DRM preventing law-abiding citizens from using the media that they have licensed--I agree with you that you should be able to use what you have licensed on any device you have. I think that the solution here is that the market will hopefully punish those who use DRM (for example, I only buy MP3 files from Amazon now because their MP3s do not have DRM encoding).

The problem is that the pirates have messed it up for the honest folks....