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bunanson 2008-07-03 02:32

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 198516)
...I guess this is why we need someone to draw up a guide showing us how to clone from sd to flash...


Just for you, buddy: clone from sd to flash, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=17562, thread #3, it is less than 8 lines, must be "EASY", yah, right.

bun

timsalmon 2008-07-03 10:48

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gemniii42 (Post 198771)
I apologize, I was responding to bunanson, whom I'm pretty sure understood.
Anyways, you have to have root access.

Many thanks. Looked that up and realised that it's best left well alone for inexperienced 'users' like me :-)

So, decided to do what others are doing and reflash with Diablo again. This I just did and guess what? Application Manager does exactly the same thing! Endless loop of 'no updates' available. What next? I guess to go backwards and take Diablo off. Or flash it again?

Tim

timsalmon 2008-07-03 21:17

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timsalmon (Post 198904)
So, decided to do what others are doing and reflash with Diablo again. This I just did and guess what? Application Manager does exactly the same thing! Endless loop of 'no updates' available. What next? I guess to go backwards and take Diablo off. Or flash it again?

Apologies for my buffoonery!

It was, in fact, that the connection at work was not letting my N810 connect. It was reporting being connected but would not let any data through. I've subsequently found another thread on that problem so I'm not alone - there's absolutely no security on the wifi at work, but even though it reports being connected, there's no action on Web or App Man or anything else. Took it home - with my super-secured network at home and it works perfectly and App Man gets populated.

I do now remember another incident when this happened - with an S60 (non-FP1) Nokia - I think it was an N93 - with no apparent solution. Odd.

Tim

bunanson 2008-07-03 21:39

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
So, you are saying that the 'continuous update' is because the wifi is off, although the icon said it is connected? OMG, I think you hit the nail in the head. I should have checked that out, as the error mess kind of point to that direction, "app manager signal ....weak". That is quite possible. I wish some people experiencing the same situation should delete the wifi connection and re-do a new wifi connection to see whether that is the situation. Thanks for the post,


bun

timsalmon 2008-07-03 21:50

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
Hurrah! At last I've been able to actually contribute something to the community instead of just taking! Let's hope it's the key for others too.

Tim

lm2 2008-07-08 16:02

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 198801)
Just for you, buddy: clone from sd to flash, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=17562, thread #3, it is less than 8 lines, must be "EASY", yah, right.

bun

Thanks Bun. Not sure I trust myself with that method (I'll have to investigate it's various elements more). But I'll give it a try. I was also going to purchase Acronis True Image which GeraldKo says will backup cloned sd card. Backup can then be placed on new sd card.

bunanson 2008-07-09 23:01

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
The problem with Acronis is whether it can clone back to the tablet when the need arise, i.e., when the tablet is in trouble. to make other clones on sd, you can just stick the new sd into the tablet, they will keep making clones like having babies. I have cloned the same clone to all my 'daughter' tablets, i.e., tablet to my colleagues and friends, so that I know what my 'daughter' tablets has, very handy if you have to 'manage' a lot of 'daughter' tablets.

bun

lm2 2008-07-09 23:32

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 201078)
The problem with Acronis is whether it can clone back to the tablet when the need arise, i.e., when the tablet is in trouble. to make other clones on sd, you can just stick the new sd into the tablet, they will keep making clones like having babies. I have cloned the same clone to all my 'daughter' tablets, i.e., tablet to my colleagues and friends, so that I know what my 'daughter' tablets has, very handy if you have to 'manage' a lot of 'daughter' tablets.

bun

What, precisely, do you mean by "when the tablet is in trouble"? I was thinking that if ever anything went *really* wrong, I'd just flash, install PB's bootmenu, and boot from either already cloned SD, or else use Acronis to clone an SD from Arconis backup. I did the latter this morning and it worked perfectly. As soon as someone writes a how-to for cloning sd to flash, I'll have a completely fool proof system. What's not to love? :)

bunanson 2008-07-10 01:53

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
In principle, a backup, like a restoring disk, is supposed to flash back to the tablet under ANY conditions. It would be good to see whether Acronis is able to put the 'backup' back to the flash. This is a question, not a statement. I am not suggesting you to try it, as my technical knowledge is NOT good enough to predict if something goes really wrong. I have no doubt the Acronis is able to provide a ghost image to other SD. I am only curious and wonder whether they can function as a restore disk.


bun

lm2 2008-07-10 12:55

Re: Application manager keeps on Updating and wont stop
 
Yes, you are right. But of course Acronis was not made for tablet, and I don't know enough to get it to recognize the tablet. I agree, it would be great to have a utility to do what you want---one that wasn't as scary as the method fanoush describes.

But, like I said, Acronis does enough for my purposes. As long as I never have to face reinstalling everything after a fresh flash, I'm very very happy.


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