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Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 241420)

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Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

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Originally Posted by ColdFusion (Post 241408)

Please find a better way, to make sure no one votes twice, than registration. Even usernames are unnecessery in my opinion.

Why?

Honestly, if you're not willing to take 30 seconds to register to vote or comment, I'm really not all that concerned about what you think. Let's leave the lazy consumer poling to Nokia, as they're certainly better at that than we are, and implementing a complicated voter-uniqueness assurance really isn't worth the time to get these people's input.

Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 241438)

Why?

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Here's why:

* Registration keeps out good posters. Imagine someone with an involving job related to your forum comes across it. This person is an expert in her field, and therefore would be a great source of knowledge for your forum; but if a registration, complete with e-mail and password, is necessary before posting, she might just give up on posting and do something more important. People with lives will tend to ignore forums with a registration process.
* Registration lets in bad posters. On the other hand, people with no lives will thrive on your forum. Children and Internet addicts tend to have free time to go register an account and check their e-mail for the confirmation message. They will generally make your forum a waste of bandwidth.
* Registration attracts trolls. If someone is interested in destroying a forum, a registration process only adds to the excitement of a challenge. One might argue that a lack of registration will just let "anyone" post, but in reality anyone can post on old-type forum software; registration is merely a useless hassle. Quoting a 4channeler:

Trolls are not out to protect their own reputation. They seek to destroy other peoples' "reputation" ... Fora with only registered accounts are like a garden full of flowers of vanity a troll would just love to pick.

* Anonymity counters vanity. On a forum where registration is required, or even where people give themselves names, a clique is developed of the elite users, and posts deal as much with who you are as what you are posting. On an anonymous forum, if you can't tell who posts what, logic will overrule vanity. As Hiroyuki, the administrator of 2ch, writes:

If there is a user ID attached to a user, a discussion tends to become a criticizing game. On the other hand, under the anonymous system, even though your opinion/information is criticized, you don't know with whom to be upset. Also with a user ID, those who participate in the site for a long time tend to have authority, and it becomes difficult for a user to disagree with them. Under a perfectly anonymous system, you can say, "it's boring," if it is actually boring. All information is treated equally; only an accurate argument will work.

Add the options for every user to vote on each post and thread and you have the perfect comunity! ;)

Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

I would like to see feature requests completely separate from bug postings. I'll bet bug wranglers would, too. ;)

Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 241500)

I would like to see feature requests completely separate from bug postings. I'll bet bug wranglers would, too. ;)

While I'd certainly prefer not to see stuff like "Make tablet boot in 5 seconds" on Bugzilla, I think it's the appropriate place for reasonable, specific requests like "Enable the 'Refresh repositories' button in the Main View in Blue Pill mode".

Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 241511)

I see your point.

How about distinguishing between completely new features versus enhancements/corrections of existing features (the latter staying in bugzilla)?

Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 241519)

I see your point.

As someone who processes a lot of bugs, I'd prefer to keeping using an interface and process I already know as opposed to one I'd have to learn (and possibly help define). ;)

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 241519)

How about distinguishing between completely new features versus enhancements/corrections of existing features (the latter staying in bugzilla)?

I see the distinction as one of scope, rather than one of 'newness'. Specific, resolvable enhancements (whether to existing features or for new ones) should be in Bugzilla, while more generic requests, or requests with much larger scope should be discussed on a 'brainstorm' site and turned into a series of specific requests to move to Bugzilla.

Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

*votes*

Brainstorm, ftw. Easy, efficient, and user friendly. It encourages community input, and encourages more people to join the community, which encourages more input, which...

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Please, Nokia, Quim... Maemo Brainstorm! (With pretty graphics ;))

Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

Being a bit provocative...

10 votes only in this poll? Is this also a statistic to read?

Starting a Brainstorm implies also high levels of participation. Currently the amounts of votes in bugs.maemo.org are not impressing either.

Re: Bugzilla or else to handle feature requests?

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 241581)

Starting a Brainstorm implies also high levels of participation. Currently the amounts of votes in bugs.maemo.org are not impressing either.

Better turnaround and communication from Nokia will help here. :)

There aint much point in voting on things that interest you if they just sit ignored or end up WONTFIXed.