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qgil 2008-11-27 20:29

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 245002)
There was no way, he said, a company like Nokia could release an OS, even as an early alpha, when there was no Nokia hardware, but only hardware from other vendors it would run on.

There is a way, which is to integrate a platform made mostly of open source. The first Fremantle SDK will be 100% open source (missing some components and features certainly, but being functional and buildable).

Didn't Android run on the N810 before the G1 was launched? It's a similar story.

But it's good to have the expectations right. What your friend has probably in mind is a full fledged Maemo 5 SDK with the final look&feel and all the Nokia apps available under emulation. Something that would provide the code to hack a full Maemo 5 image with applications and etc. This is not the point of the SDK and this is not going to happen - at least not in the release we are preparing right now.

This first Fremantle SDK release is going to be a rough shot of fresh code targetting mainly platform developers. The API won't be complete, leave alone frozen, so not even application developers will find much real use of it. Power/general users will be able to do very little with this SDK, apart from reading what (we hope) the most advanced developers will interpret and write about.

This might deceive some of you willing to have Maemo 5 in your hands, but this is how open development works.

lcuk 2008-11-27 20:38

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
thanks quim,

Seeing how it is shaping up will allow people to get ideas together.
Knowing where abouts and how clutter will sit will allow us to formulate ideas.

Since clutter already runs on other machines it should then be possible to test and start to build plans.

qole 2008-11-27 22:40

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
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Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 245012)
By the way, we are on schedule with delivering our early SDK still this year. Stay tuned.

Hoorah! I like the words "on schedule".

Something Pandora pre-orders would be happy to hear, too. But alas... ;)

flareup 2008-11-28 00:29

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 245012)
Here in Maemo Software R&D in Nokia, we developed Maemo 5 initially on N810 hardware until the hardware adaptation to the new hardware was working. Now we are working mostly on the new hardware with OMAP3 processor.


surely THIS is the most interesting part? These guys have 'the new hardware' in their hands. That's n900 or whatever it's going to be called, isn't it?

qole 2008-11-28 00:32

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
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Originally Posted by flareup (Post 245177)
surely THIS is the most interesting part? These guys have 'the new hardware' in their hands. That's n900 or whatever it's going to be called, isn't it?

Well, they've got something. Whether or not it looks anything like what we'll eventually be able to buy is another story. It may just look like a green board with chips on it, with wires trailing around and (maybe) a screen held on by rubber bands and a blob of chewing gum.

But hey, less than 5 weeks left in the year! So the Alpha SDK comes out in < 5 weeks!

Mara 2008-11-28 00:52

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 245178)
Well, they've got something. Whether or not it looks anything like what we'll eventually be able to buy is another story. It may just look like a green board with chips on it, with wires trailing around and (maybe) a screen held on by rubber bands and a blob of chewing gum.

Hmmm... that phase was about 1 year ago... :rolleyes:

EDITED: Removed due to Nokia request. I wasn't aware this information was considered sensitive.

qole 2008-11-28 01:08

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
Wow, now I'm suddenly a lot more excited. The way they were talking at the Summit, it felt like they were still at the breadboard stage, but I'm just going to believe that Mara is right, because that's really cool.

benny1967 2008-11-28 07:25

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
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Originally Posted by Mara (Post 245179)
The latest prototypes look and feel like retail devices. (Inside they may still have some "blue wire" hacks etc...)

I wonder how long it'll take until we see the first blurry images showing up on engadget. I always loved that "leaked pictures"-phase.

fms 2008-11-28 09:17

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 245179)
The latest prototypes look and feel like retail devices. (Inside they may still have some "blue wire" hacks etc...)

Pictures, Mara? =)

tso 2008-11-28 09:40

Re: Is the Maemo5 development/release process unprecedented?
 
im guessing that mara is on the edge of a NDA breach already, so dont get your hopes up.


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