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penguinbait 2008-12-09 16:36

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
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Originally Posted by fms (Post 248134)
Well, it is about a lesson now: Never ever preorder anything from shady little startups that have no previous record of hardware manufacturing or design. And it does not matter how many "open source" stickers are plastered over their web page. If you are betting money, at least make good bets.

Well its a lesson that I have learned, although its not the lesson to which you are referring. As I said I will reorder.

I will be very cautious in the future about ordering from other countries as I did not realize someone could take one amount from me and then refund a lessor amount, all perfectly legally.

andrewfblack 2008-12-09 16:51

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
the big thing is you have already lost money because the exchange rate shifted but what if it shifts again and they want about 500 from you. That is possible.

Karel Jansens 2008-12-09 17:33

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
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Originally Posted by lardman (Post 248136)
Good bets are ones that are backed up by a credit card ;)

I'm not overly worried about the money (as in whether it's a scam), just that I can see the Pandora moving progressively backwards into the assumed launch date for the "N900" (which means it will be a waste of money to get a Pandora when I'd far prefer to hack on the "N900").

It seems the N900 will (might/would?) have only 128 MB of RAM and probably therefore also only 256 MB of NAND. Also, I haven't heard any mention of TV-out for the N900.

GeneralAntilles 2008-12-09 17:39

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 248171)
It seems the N900 will (might/would?) have only 128 MB of RAM and probably therefore also only 256 MB of NAND. Also, I haven't heard any mention of TV-out for the N900.

We do not know how much RAM or NAND the N900 will have. Speculation based on kernel code (currently clearly intended for dev boards) should not be taken as an announcement of the specs of the final product.

Karel Jansens 2008-12-09 17:55

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 248174)
We do not know how much RAM or NAND the N900 will have. Speculation based on kernel code (currently clearly intended for dev boards) should not be taken as an announcement of the specs of the final product.

Oh, I agree. Nothing about an allegedly final N900 should be taken for granted.

Wes Doobner 2008-12-09 18:00

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 248183)
Oh, I agree. Nothing about an allegedly final N900 should be taken for granted.

Nor, apparently, an allegedly final Pandora.

allnameswereout 2008-12-09 18:13

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
Actually, at this point, you will have to pay more than 304.11 USD (don't use $ sign; alone it means nothing) because of the exchange rates. These depend on your bank though. The exchange rates they used depend on their bank.

However why did their bank issue a refund?

If it is possible to deny transactions from banks you could put this bank on there.

And the 'it isn't our fault' is a bit finger pointing. If it is their banks fault and not theirs they should take another bank. And they could inform their customers about this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 248134)
Well, it is about a lesson now: Never ever preorder anything from shady little startups that have no previous record of hardware manufacturing or design. And it does not matter how many "open source" stickers are plastered over their web page. If you are betting money, at least make good bets.

Indeed. And consider to not jump on the early adopter bandwagon.

Actually, I can 'pre-order' here too, and have done this succesfully. However this was done in real life, and in trust of each other. I say I want X, the store doesn't have it. They say: well, we can order it for you, but then please pre-pay Y amount (usually a couple of tens, with more expensive things this rises; its something like 5-10% of the total; def not more than 33%). For this I receive a receipt. Once they have it, the remaining debt is immediately fullfilled at the moment the transaction takes place.

Likewise, don't send something unless you have received payment. I sometimes receive something while I haven't even paid yet, or payed on the very day I received it. For example yesterday (monday) I received something I paid for sunday...

yerga 2008-12-09 18:19

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 248171)
It seems the N900 will (might/would?) have only 128 MB of RAM and probably therefore also only 256 MB of NAND. Also, I haven't heard any mention of TV-out for the N900.

You could haven't searched very well.
I have mentioned the TV OUT thing here.

But as says GeneralAntilles, are only speculations, nothing yet, it's only a kernel for a pre-alpha SDK.

fms 2008-12-09 18:44

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
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Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 248140)
Well its a lesson that I have learned, although its not the lesson to which you are referring. As I said I will reorder.

Hehe, I have been an Amiga user and I know that for a lot of hardcore fans the proper lesson takes 2-3 iterations to learn :)

fanoush 2008-12-09 20:02

Re: The Pandora Cluster Bleep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 248134)
Well, it is about a lesson now: Never ever preorder anything from shady little startups that have no previous record of hardware manufacturing or design. And it does not matter how many "open source" stickers are plastered over their web page. If you are betting money, at least make good bets.

Well I am not surprised nor unhappy. Before I preordered I knew any ETA given by openpandora team is just wishful thinking. They have to be insanely optimistic to go into such endeavour so you can't by definition believe any date they will give you in good faith. Still, the progress can be clearly seen so I am not worried. N900 may be more slick and polished but I am getting Pandora for gaming controls and 2 full SD slots. This is niche product from gamers for gamers. Tablets are going into other direction (i.e. mainstream 'castrated' product with any rough edges and radical ideas removed for your safety and comfort).


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