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Munk 2009-03-28 18:34

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
Ok, some progress using the command sdp-query.

sdp-query 00:21:9e:2f:4a:b9
r|SPP|2|0|Serial Port 1
r|DUN|1|0|Dial-up Networking
r|00000002-0000-1000-8000-0002ee000002|10|0|OBEX SyncML Client
l|0x110A|25|0|Music Streaming Service
l|0x110C|23|0|Remote Control Target Service
l|0x110E|23|0|Remote Control Service
r|0x8E771401|2|0|SEMC Watch Phone
l|0x1116|15|0|PAN Network Access Point
l|0x1115|15|0|PAN user
r|0x111F|5|0|Hands-Free Gateway
r|0x1112|4|0|Headset Gateway
r|OPP|6|0|OBEX Object Push
r|FTP|7|0|OBEX File Transfer
r|0x1104|8|0|OBEX IrMC Sync Server
l|HID|17|0|HID Mouse & Keyboard
l|0x8E771301|61689|0|SEMC HLA
r|0x112F|11|0|Phonebook Access PSE
r|SPP|16|0|Symarctic ExtGPS

Ok I see that my extgps is on channel 16 but now the rfcomm command that they refer to isn't something in my path. I did a "find / -name rfcomm" and all of the occurences of "rfcomm" say "permission denied". Any help would be appreciates.

allnameswereout 2009-03-31 18:09

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
Please read the whole message first before attempting.

Make sure ExtGPS is started and has a fix. When it says 'NMEA [with a number]' (green) it has a fix. Then it says 'BlueTooth not connected' (red). You've gotten this far it seems. Make sure your phone's BlueTooth is on and visible/findable either permanently or (probably better) temporarily not hidden.

If you put the phone temporarily (for example for 1 minute) visible you have to issue the following between now and (for example 1 minute). Go to Applications -> Settings -> Control Panel. Open here GPS Location. Put on 'Enable GPS', and click 'Pair new device'. Now your N8x0 will find your phone. It asks you to fill in a pin code. Fill in something and remember this for the next step. Your phone will now ask you to fill in a pin code. Use the very same you filled in on your N8x0. Now they are paired. Instead of the Internal GPS pick the new one from the list. Now close GPS Location and fire up an application which uses GPS; e.g. Wayfinder. The 'BlueTooth not connected error' (red) will go away and become 'Connected' (green). If you now see the GPS Panel appearing and getting 'green' it works, and instead of using GPS Location in the Config panel you can use this icon in the Panel instead provided GPS is being used by e.g. Wayfinder.

Say you had an external GPS mouse. It'd all go the same, just you wouldn't have to use ExtGPS.

Assuming your phone's GPS is good you'll find you'll have a great, fast GPS receiver & program. You can even also use BlueTooth tethering with Maemo Mapper.

dantonic 2009-03-31 18:45

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyjapes (Post 272829)
@dxitt
The 506 has a great battery, but using GPS will drain it faster than any other activity on the phone. If your gonna use it all day, you'll want to buy a car adapter and/or some spare batteries.

The battery life of this phone is horrible. I've owned it for a few months now... I've also exchanged the batter once thinking it was a faulty battery. If you use the phone as a modem connected to the NIT, battery lasts maybe 10 hours. if you do not use any internet, no bluetooth, no anything, and almost 0 calls, the batter lasts 48 hours in standby.
THis phone was advertised as having amazing battery life, but it has been a big disappointment in that sense.
Everything else works great, the 3G speed is awesome. I've tested my speed multiple times and I get approximately 780kbps/160kbps on my tablet while thethered to the phone through BT.
Anyone else have the same experience as me with the battery?

dxitt 2009-04-02 01:46

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dantonic (Post 276140)
The battery life of this phone is horrible. I've owned it for a few months now... I've also exchanged the batter once thinking it was a faulty battery. If you use the phone as a modem connected to the NIT, battery lasts maybe 10 hours. if you do not use any internet, no bluetooth, no anything, and almost 0 calls, the batter lasts 48 hours in standby.
THis phone was advertised as having amazing battery life, but it has been a big disappointment in that sense.
Everything else works great, the 3G speed is awesome. I've tested my speed multiple times and I get approximately 780kbps/160kbps on my tablet while thethered to the phone through BT.
Anyone else have the same experience as me with the battery?

My experience with TM506 battery is not as bad. I think it's better than n810 when GPS is turned on.

Now this may be off-topic. There's a open-source java program called Mobile GMaps which lets me pre-load the maps (google maps, MS live maps etc. same repositories used by Maemo mapper) to my 4GB M2 card. The Gmail and Google Maps (stand alone java apps from Google) as well as Yahoo mails work so well on TM506. I found that I depend on my n810 less and less. Very unfortunate for n810...

allnameswereout 2009-04-03 15:24

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
ExtGPS doesn't use that much battery life. Try it, maybe your phone survives the day. Mine does.

racky 2009-04-04 02:11

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 276129)
Please read the whole message first before attempting.

Make sure ExtGPS is started and has a fix. When it says 'NMEA [with a number]' (green) it has a fix. Then it says 'BlueTooth not connected' (red). You've gotten this far it seems. Make sure your phone's BlueTooth is on and visible/findable either permanently or (probably better) temporarily not hidden.

If you put the phone temporarily (for example for 1 minute) visible you have to issue the following between now and (for example 1 minute). Go to Applications -> Settings -> Control Panel. Open here GPS Location. Put on 'Enable GPS', and click 'Pair new device'. Now your N8x0 will find your phone. It asks you to fill in a pin code. Fill in something and remember this for the next step. Your phone will now ask you to fill in a pin code. Use the very same you filled in on your N8x0. Now they are paired. Instead of the Internal GPS pick the new one from the list. Now close GPS Location and fire up an application which uses GPS; e.g. Wayfinder. The 'BlueTooth not connected error' (red) will go away and become 'Connected' (green). If you now see the GPS Panel appearing and getting 'green' it works, and instead of using GPS Location in the Config panel you can use this icon in the Panel instead provided GPS is being used by e.g. Wayfinder.

Say you had an external GPS mouse. It'd all go the same, just you wouldn't have to use ExtGPS.

Assuming your phone's GPS is good you'll find you'll have a great, fast GPS receiver & program. You can even also use BlueTooth tethering with Maemo Mapper.

Which version of ExtGPS did you try? I don't find the version for Sony TM506 on the web. I am sure most of us know how to pair a phone with our ITs and that is why we buy this phone for tethering. I downloaded one on my TM506, forget which one. I see the green light for NMEA with a number, but the bluetooth connection part still shows red even through the IT and the phone show they are connected. I use the wayfinder on my IT too. Any more suggestion?

allnameswereout 2009-04-04 06:37

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by racky (Post 277314)
Which version of ExtGPS did you try? I don't find the version for Sony TM506 on the web. I am sure most of us know how to pair a phone with our ITs and that is why we buy this phone for tethering. I downloaded one on my TM506, forget which one. I see the green light for NMEA with a number, but the bluetooth connection part still shows red even through the IT and the phone show they are connected. I use the wayfinder on my IT too. Any more suggestion?

This one

http://www.joiku.com/?action=product...product_id=351

Just fill in that you have a Nokia phone. It is a J2ME application, so if your phone supports J2ME, it works.

There is difference between tethering (internet connectivity) and GPS.

Did you follow my instructions above? Make sure you're not using the internal GPS and make sure you're using GPS Location to pair with your phone. Even if you're already having tethering enabled! I know, this is not really the way you'd expect it to work, but its the way it works :)

racky 2009-04-05 04:43

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
I followed all the steps, and it still doesn't work. Maybe someone has better luck than me. Anybody?
Thanks for your suggestion anyway.

y2b4sure 2009-04-11 05:34

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
I can't get this to fully work. Any help would be appreciated. The two circles go green, and I see NMEA data in hyperterminal, but only GPGSV data, which I believe does not included long/lat info. I also downloaded VisualGPS, and it had the same symptom, the satellites would show up, but no long/lat.

Has anyone successfully had a TM506 and extgps working together and providing location information?

Thanks.

allnameswereout 2009-04-11 23:26

Re: Use Sony TM506 phone built-in phone GPS as external GPS for n810/n800
 
2 users who cannot get it working. 0 who got it working. Seems the problem is not related to N8x0 but to TM506? Maybe there are user forums for this device where you can ask if someone got an application like ExtGPS working. Maybe the BlueTooth profile to export the GPS is not supported on TM506.


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