Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

<Yawn>, let us hear this sad, sad story...

Ok, so you have been fleeced in a traditional American way. Instead of just buying the latest decent, reasonably cheap S60 phone on the Internet, you bought an overpriced "flagship device" and let the cellular company enroll you into "a plan". To add insult to the injury, N95 looks and feels like a brick.

No. I am sure nobody does.

You do get firmware updates for N95, unlike me, not getting firmware updates for my E70.

It does not, as long as you back up your personal data before a firmware upgrade or a hard reset. Haven't bothered to back up? Do not complain then.

Can't comment that, the first thing I do to a phone is delete all the "application store apps" and everything that looks even remotely like adware.

Nothing did, most likely.

This is most likely caused by config files corruption due to too many application installs/removals or failed installs. Ever turned your phone off while it was installing an application? That would cause such a problem. The solution is rather simple though:

1. Back up your personal data
2. Dial *#7370#
3. The phone will reboot, resetting all the configuration.

And what does it tell us? Let us call Captain Obvious to the rescue, should we? The good captain is saying that N95 is no longer the flagship device, N97 is! Ah, the horror! The suffering! Shouldn't have bought that "flagship device", should you?

No backup - no personal data after upgrade or hard reset. Now you know.

Will you use both netbooks to call, one for each ear? =)

Then why not buy one of these and go complain to an appropriate iPhone/Pre/Android forum?

Because it is no longer the flagship phone. It is just an aging piece of silicon junk. Just like most other gadgets, including old iPods, the original iPhone, etc. You should have bought a cheaper and more practical phone, such as Nokia E51 for example, still going strong.

Backup your contacts. Do not buy crappy apps.

Ah, I guess we are all well aware here... But thanks for a helpful reminder.

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

And I want to add a thing to what fms just said: I saw the same problem on the same phone... guess what, somebody loaded apps filled with crap just obtained from a peer2peer circuit...
Faber est suae quisque fortunae

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

As I wrote, there is no firmware update for my model of N95 8G NAM.
The only firmware available (V 11.2.011 of 01-04-2008) is the one which I had on my phone.
NO NEW firmware was avilable for N95 8G NAM in more then an year and half.

Never turned off the phone during a installation.


But the basic thing is: It is unexpected that any OS to be just simply destroyed by a failed installation.

What is so complicated about installed applications on Symbian?

In windows there is a database registry for COM applications or the manifest files that come with each .net or java application, or just the ControlPanel Add/Remove database for simpler executables.

Did the developers of Symbian OS ever read about transactional updates of DB?

If an app installation failed, it is just simple: no record of that app should be made in the system tracking apps.

Why is so hard on Symbian to have this right?


So your point is that if an applications fails to install, the solution on Symbian OS is to go and backup all your contacts and data, reset the phone, and then anyway loose some of the applications installed?

This is just a nightmare! Not an OS!

And why the backup is not done automatically during the upgrade process?

:confused:

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

"Too many application installs..."

What is the limit on the number of applications I can install on Symbian?


3?
10?
What about 15? Can I try to install 15 applications, or it is too much for the old OS?

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

Nope, never did that. Ever heard about ovi store? - I paid for some of the apps I just lost.

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

The latest firmware for N95 NAM, as reported on the Net, is v20.2.011. You have got v11. Please, check your facts before complaining. Especially if you complain to people who are not obligated to help you.

Your OS is not being destroyed by a failed installation. Your application manager may have become confused a little bit though.

Windows Installer also tends to screw up every now and then. When this happens, the only way to resolve things is to fix the registry by hand.

Sorry, but whom are you talking to? Please, check carefully which forum you are in.

No. My point is that if your application manager starts misbehaving, you should try resetting your phone, and backup your personal data in advance.

Everything is a nightmare for a person not able to handle reality calmly and logically.

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

This thread would probably fit better in the Off-Topic forum and likely even better still in a Symbian forum.

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

Never said you did, I was just reporting my personal experience with a friend's phone ;)
Unfortunately **** can happen, so it is best to always backup relevant data...
About the apps' installations/removals: you can have as many apps as you like, but on every OS (doesn't matter if on an embedded device or a PC) when you "change their status" (mostly when uninstalling) they leave small "traces", and sometimes these "traces" could cause major malfuncions :(

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

I like Nokia hardware, and my next device would be N900.

I want to know about the upgrade experience on N810. How many firmware updates did you have since N810 was released?

How is Nokia updater software for NIT?

How easy is to install/remove an application - do you have a sort of "Control Panel Add/Remove App" or like "AppManager" in Symbian?

What is the compatibility between Maemo OS versions because the compatibility of Symbian OS versions is simply awful?

Re: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
 

App Manager started misbehaving. The solution with reset the device or upgrade the firmware is the user will loose some (many) applications. Is this normal? Is this an ok solution?

Never seen Control Panel Add/Remove Apps to stop working and I program windows and unix for more than 16 years after my faculty graduation.