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korbé 2009-08-11 23:30

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 311016)
Yes, they've spent the last year hiring open source developers by the dozens and investing millions in open source projects and technologies to completely shut down all of those efforts tomorrow. Sounds super plausible.

Eh it was a joke.

GeneralAntilles 2009-08-11 23:54

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by korbé (Post 311038)
Eh it was a joke.

Ah, apologies, then. You'll want to familiarize yourself with a selection of these for use in avoiding future misunderstandings: ;) :p :D :rolleyes:.

GeneralAntilles 2009-08-11 23:54

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by luca (Post 311034)
to turn them into soylent green :D

But that would mean . . . ! :eek:

nwerneck 2009-08-12 00:01

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by korbé (Post 311013)
the end of Free Software in Nokia?

Maybe Microsoft broke GPL again with something related to Nokia products. :)

qole 2009-08-12 00:14

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
This thread has the gory details... MS Office on Nokia phones :eek:

WTF, seriously. Why not get OpenOffice.org working well?

sjgadsby 2009-08-12 00:41

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 311053)
MS Office on Nokia phones

Why not get OpenOffice.org working well?

I don't know if my experience illustrates a wider trend or is an outlier, but years ago, before mobile phones knifed PDAs in a dark alley and PalmOS vs. Windows CE/Mobile/whatever was a choice one might consider, I worked for a company that went with the Windows solution. Why? Well, opening Word and Excel documents was a stated priority for the folks who'd be using the devices, and though 3rd party software on the Palm performed the task better, it wasn't "real".

Folks wanted Word, not something that opened Word documents. That the two Words obviously weren't the same program and had only limited compatibility with one another was irrelevant. The name alone decided the matter.

Epilogue: The HP Jornada clamshells purchased were quickly abandoned due to being too large to carry to meetings, too unreliable in synchronizing, and not able to open regular Word and Excel documents. PDAs were declared non-useful.

nwerneck 2009-08-12 03:35

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 311060)
not able to open regular Word and Excel documents

It's amazing how Office manages to be incompatible with anaything else. Word and Excel files have grown up into bloated monsters full of unheard-of features that always make programs like open office and mobile versions of the programs break when they read less simple files. I can never fill simple forms that are sent to me because they are never opened quite right in openoffice. And it is quite annoying that it can't diagnose exactly where can be a problem when you switch file formats.

I hope the MS Internet Office trend means files will become simpler, and more compatible with OpenOffice and others... That could happen: for the first years that people start using the "iOffice" we manage to have more interoperability between windows users and others. That until Microsoft starts making things complicated again.

On the other hand, I have been seeing a great difficulty in my work in the adoption of the docx format, not to mention windows Vista. How long are windowze users going to be stuck at the pinnacle of incompatibility?

gerbick 2009-08-12 03:55

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Compared to the alternatives, it's too bad that the publishing (Word/Excel) world is being led by its nose by Microsoft.

OpenOffice hasn't set a standard that's stuck. In fact, why hasn't anything replaced *.rtf, *.txt, *.doc, *.xls, *.pdf and *.ppt? Too much bellyaching, no solutions that will drive people away from MS Office.

If a better option were to truly evolve, it needs to be pushed out there. That just hasn't happened. I wonder why.

Texrat 2009-08-12 04:01

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by korbé (Post 311013)
the end of Free Software in Nokia?

What's with all the extreme reactions lately? :confused:

nvm-- joke. Got it. :rolleyes:

Bundyo 2009-08-12 04:54

Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 311092)
Compared to the alternatives, it's too bad that the publishing (Word/Excel) world is being led by its nose by Microsoft.

OpenOffice hasn't set a standard that's stuck. In fact, why hasn't anything replaced *.rtf, *.txt, *.doc, *.xls, *.pdf and *.ppt? Too much bellyaching, no solutions that will drive people away from MS Office.

If a better option were to truly evolve, it needs to be pushed out there. That just hasn't happened. I wonder why.

Well, for one - instead of innovating you will be forced to reverse engineer and support MS's proprietary formats. Its an already lost battle.


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