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Were you an early adopter? I find the latest firmware very solid, but it did take a while to get here. I think I've had my RAZR about three years now and it's evolved nicely in my opinion.

This is one of these threads where I'm not sorry for being off topic. :)

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@YoDude:

I don't know much about the RAZR... but did it have:

- Yearly OS update with significant new features?
- Appstore?
- Accessories for these unique markets: health & medication, education, fitness, navigation, retail pos, and many more.

I think your analysis is incomplete. Yes, the market is fickle.. and trends do come and go, but don't underestimate nor misunderstand what's happening and hope you can get the best.

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Not correct. iphone products are still making plenty of money two years later.

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They gave me a RAZR, then a SLVR. None of those phones lasted more than a day with me. I hated it immensely.

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Sure, we're pretty much the same, except for our totally different health care systems, legal systems, educational standards, political leanings, religious leanings, approach to multiculturalism, spellings of the English language... :D

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Eh, you're just cold Californians. :p

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should add better beer while you're at it. but we're talking tech here - not politics. :)

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Okay, as tech goes, you are correct - similar standards (CDMA, strange 3G), similar prices/penetration, etc.

Great, now I'm thinking about beer. Gotta go. :)

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Understood, and that's where the "raise expectations" part comes in.

The iPhone raised the expectations of users and captured customer loyalty in the process. It also raised the expectations of the industry with regards to the amount of money users will spend for apps by making the iTunes experience as easy and trouble free as it has. However, studying the cycles of newly added subscriptions and provider TOS in North America is/was just as important to Apple, or any other manufacturer imho.

...and btw, we are all entitled to our opinions. However, starting off a reply stating that an opinion is not correct without providing supporting information or at the very least asking for some clarification, sometimes rubs people the wrong way and leads to flame wars. :)

It didn't hurt my feelings any but then again, we all know each other here.:D I'm just guessing now but, in the next few months we could be seeing quite a few new members who may react differently.
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whether

"a bell curve graph of both Razr and iPhone sales would line up pretty closely... both sales windows opening and closing two years apart."

is a factual matter, not an opinion

You should have been happy all I did was correct the mistake for the benefit of others. iphone continues to be a huge runaway sales success in the mobile industry and I could have poked fun at you for being soooo wrong and so ignorant, but I didn't...