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zehjotkah 2009-08-24 05:40

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 314628)
Yes, keep using Google / Yahoo / Virtual Earth maps, rather than re-inventing the wheel. :(

The Google Street View van has been seen wandering my streets, and you're suggesting I recreate the maps for my city?

But OSM is open source.... And I KNOW that we all are open source fanboys... ;-)

Imagine following situation: You are on the way to work. Then you see, that they are building a new street (in my village very often, because many people try to escape from berlin, but they still want live near...). Google need to send their cool google-car to check everything out, and after a year or so, the new street is covered in google maps, too. But YOU can pull out your n810 (or the next device with built-in data-modem) and just drive on that new street once (upload it directly with the new device) and voilá, its on OSM.

Johnx 2009-08-24 05:47

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 314628)
Yes, keep using Google / Yahoo / Virtual Earth maps, rather than re-inventing the wheel. :(

The Google Street View van has been seen wandering my streets, and you're suggesting I recreate the maps for my city?

<sarcastic>Since we already have Windows Mobile, why should we bother reinventing the wheel?</sarcastic> Also, just FYI, scraping google map tiles is against Google's terms of service for the google maps API, AFAICT:
http://code.google.com/apis/maps/faq.html#tos_tiles

qole 2009-08-24 05:49

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
And it would seem that I have spoken too soon, and too harshly, as well. I just checked openstreetmap.org and they have dramatically improved the maps for Vancouver in the last year. A year ago they had only a few major streets for my city and mostly empty space. Now they have all the small streets and even some features that Google Maps don't have.

I'm actually quite sorry and embarrassed about what I said above... :( :o

fragos 2009-08-24 21:58

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 314702)
And it would seem that I have spoken too soon, and too harshly, as well. I just checked openstreetmap.org and they have dramatically improved the maps for Vancouver in the last year. A year ago they had only a few major streets for my city and mostly empty space. Now they have all the small streets and even some features that Google Maps don't have.

I'm actually quite sorry and embarrassed about what I said above... :( :o

Many things change with time. No need to be embarrassed. We do our best to help each other with the knowledge we have. To me you are a very credible source of information.

YoDude 2009-08-25 01:00

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
Is Nokia's WRT now available for diablo and chinook? :confused:

inoshishi 2009-08-26 21:56

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
Hi master of gizmo, I love the concept of having a common widget to have a consistent experience and to allow the developers to focus on something else than drawing a map.

Is osm-gps-map using a single repository to store the maps between the separate applications ?
So, if a user downloads a few tiles using OSM2Go, does he get those tiles available from every other application using the osm-gps-map widget ?

I haven't seen where I could downlaod the widget and try to play with it. I'd love to try and make a prototype for simple, finger friendly application for in-car use. I find maemo mapper to not be ideal to use while driving.

Does it have python bindings ?

Master of Gizmo 2009-08-27 05:53

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 314494)
Yesterday I tried this widget for the first time and the first instinct was to use the right hand even if I was sustaining the device with the left. The buttons require certain precision. But you might be right, let's get ourselves more used to this interesting widget.

The OSD controls are fully configurable. They are a seperate layer above the map. Currently there's only the "classic" style OSD which resembles the google maps controls.

But you can do any kind of OSD with this. The next style planned is based upon ecoachs fremantle style with the two big zoomin and zoomout buttons at the border.

It really depends on the app which is better. Imho a fullscreen map as in gpxview needs those thumb buttons at the border. A map integrated into a complex dialog box like in osm2go should rather have these google like controls especially if - like in the osm2go area selection - it doesn't support dragging the map.

MoG

Master of Gizmo 2009-08-27 05:58

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inoshishi (Post 315912)
Is osm-gps-map using a single repository to store the maps between the separate applications ?

Yes it is. It's the app using the map that the specifies where the data goes (or of it isn't cached at all), but i strongly recommend to use the same defaults i use, so they all use the same cache.

Quote:

Originally Posted by inoshishi (Post 315912)
I haven't seen where I could downlaod the widget and try to play with it.

Currently the development takes place inside gpxview and the code is copied into osm2go every now and then. I am planning to make this a complete stand-alone project, but that hasn't happened now. I'll also make a simple stand-alone app using it as an example. But currently gpxview probably is the best place to look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by inoshishi (Post 315912)
Does it have python bindings ?

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The original osm-gps-map had them. My extensions (which are getting more and more) don't.

Master of Gizmo 2009-08-27 06:08

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
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Originally Posted by sampppa (Post 314630)
Well osm-gps-map is capable of showing google maps, virtual earth, yahoo and osm... It just needs a features for placing POI's, buttons and other data on top of the map image. So it's a widget for various map sources, not just osm

Selecting the map source is something the widget still has to learn. Currently this can already be done by the application using the widget, but there should imho also be an OSD option for the map for this, so the developer also doesn't have to care about this.

But i stronly recommend osm since it's the only one that will sure always allow such widgets. Google and friends may just change/disable their apis at will (and they already did which is why osm-gps-map and maemo mapper can't use the google hybrid map anymore).

MoG

Nelson L. Squeeko 2009-09-01 11:57

Re: Map widget for fremantle (and diablo and chinnok)
 
I've tried the widget out in gpxView, its nice having all the geocaches shown on the map by default. I have a couple questions though.

Is there a way to download a large area of tiles (instead of dragging the map around and auto-downloading)?

Where do the map tiles get downloaded to, and is there a way to change this?


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