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Jack6428 2009-09-06 10:48

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wait, so, are you saying i shouldnt get the N900 lol ? :(
and when will Maemo 6 arrive?

attila77 2009-09-06 11:02

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We're saying it's exactly clear just how mainstream Nokia wants to make the N900 (which shouldn't influence your mind about buying it, unless your top criteria is how many of your buddies have it and not technical merit). As for Maemo 6, probably somewhere around 2011-2012.

tissot 2009-09-06 11:13

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To me it sounds a bit like harmattan is THE thing and they dont yet want to put all hype around Maemo 5. Or Nokia might be still a bit sceptical? Thought some how i dont believe it as harmattan is rather close and they seem to be shifting more people to the maemo side.

ysss 2009-09-06 11:25

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@attila77: what's wrong with using market penetration and availability as part of your purchase decision? It relates to :

- potential industry support\compatibility with said platform.
- number of potential 3rd party apps and accessories available for it.
- number of devices you can 'surely' interoperate with.
- size of audience, if you're a developer.
- potential lifespan of the platform.
- etc.

Unless all linux users are antisocial hermits, I think it should be obvious that popularity isn't bad.

sjgadsby 2009-09-06 11:27

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Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 322593)
...so, are you saying i shouldnt get the N900

Get what device suits your needs, wants, and wallet.

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and when will Maemo 6 arrive?
Rumor is, toward the end of 2010, with one other Maemo 5 device appearing before then.

Jack6428 2009-09-06 11:45

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 322601)
Get what device suits your needs, wants, and wallet.



Rumor is, toward the end of 2010, with one other Maemo 5 device appearing before then.

ok then, thanks!
yea, the N900 suits me in all ways, its great. But you know, i don't understand Maemo that much (more of a Symbian guy), so i just don't want to make a mistake in the sense that i would get the N900 and then in 1year Maemo 6 comes out with some super cool features and the N900 would be more less useless..i watched the interview with the guy, but still... that's the only thing im worried about.. i dont understand the upgrades much with Maemo devices...so im sorry if i sound silly...but still, to me it as it is looks better then Symbian...Symbain imo reached its limits. And about one more Maemo 5 device...in what can it be better then the N900? A N910i? Also id assume it would arrive sometime in summer 2010?

Kypeli 2009-09-06 12:35

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Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 322607)
ok then, thanks!
Symbian...Symbain imo reached its limits. And about one more Maemo 5 device...in what can it be better then the N900? A N910i? Also id assume it would arrive sometime in summer 2010?

Quite frankly I don't get this thinking behind waiting for something better when talking about gadgets. Sure, there will be more and different and probably even better gadgets (not talking only about phones here...). It's just Moore's law. But if we just keep on waiting for something better to come, I sure wouldn't have bought my first computer/cellphone/HD TV yet.

I already pre-ordered my N900 because I know it is the best phone out there for me right now.

attila77 2009-09-06 12:58

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 322600)
@attila77: what's wrong with using market penetration and availability as part of your purchase decision? It relates to :

Unless all linux users are antisocial hermits, I think it should be obvious that popularity isn't bad.

You got it a bit backwards. I was saying (or at least trying to say) it might be a good choice even if it's NOT as popular in the mainstream as it perhaps could be based on what it brings to the table.

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
Rumor is, toward the end of 2010, with one other Maemo 5 device appearing before then.

I'm quite skeptical about that. Nokia folks are swearing that Harmattan development will be far more transparent (by decoupling the hidden parts better than the outright chopping of the Fremantle SDK). Yet, there is nothing to see yet from Harmattan, and the switch from GTK to Qt is certainly a Herculean task. I wouldn't keep my hopes too high on seing Harmattan in just a little over a year from now. All this of course strictly IMHO, and I'd be glad if Nokia disproved me with at least a ROUGH roadmap we always bi*ch and moan about :)

Jack6428 2009-09-06 13:16

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Originally Posted by Kypeli (Post 322621)
Quite frankly I don't get this thinking behind waiting for something better when talking about gadgets. Sure, there will be more and different and probably even better gadgets (not talking only about phones here...). It's just Moore's law. But if we just keep on waiting for something better to come, I sure wouldn't have bought my first computer/cellphone/HD TV yet.

I already pre-ordered my N900 because I know it is the best phone out there for me right now.

yea, i understand, you are right...for me the N900 is the best too..but you know, i always am curious to know what's planned... coz sometimes it happens that a company releases something and then suddenly in several month the real big thing comes out..i was just making sure this isnt the case and that the "something" was the N97 and the "big thing" the N900...not the other way around by "something" being N900 and "big thing" being "N ???" :p

jsa 2009-09-06 13:31

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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 322625)
I'm quite skeptical about that. Nokia folks are swearing that Harmattan development will be far more transparent (by decoupling the hidden parts better than the outright chopping of the Fremantle SDK). Yet, there is nothing to see yet from Harmattan, and the switch from GTK to Qt is certainly a Herculean task. I wouldn't keep my hopes too high on seing Harmattan in just a little over a year from now. All this of course strictly IMHO, and I'd be glad if Nokia disproved me with at least a ROUGH roadmap we always bi*ch and moan about :)

One thing to remember in this case is that the whole point of Qt is to simplify cross-platform development between Symbian and Maemo. And this also applies to internal Nokia development. As you probably know, Symbian^4 with it's renewed-from-ground-up Qt UI is also slated to be released around the end of next year. And I think building the new UI/app suite for Symbian is even more herculean a task than that of Maemo which is why I assume they will share as much code as possible. The point I'm trying to make is that there might be both the Maemo developers _and_ the Symbian developers working for the same goal.


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