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Capt'n Corrupt 2009-09-09 01:48
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
I'm really looking forward to testing the N900 touch screen!

Hopefully it has one of those crazy N97 scratch resistant coatings.

}:^)~

DannStarr 2009-09-09 08:52
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 324044)
Probably should buy an Iphone then eh :)
I already have one... Want an n900 ;)

Bratag 2009-09-09 13:09
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DannStarr (Post 324163)
I already have one... Want an n900 ;)
Well then unfortunately you may have to compromise on the screen. Everything I have read and seen leads me to believe the screen is amazing and responsive.

Is it as good as an iPhone screen? That may come down to personal choice.

attila77 2009-09-09 13:26
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
Engadget outdid themselves today, actually telling they know better than the device manufacturer - if you do don't do capacitive, you suck. They actually think the only reason to use capacitive screens is to lower cost.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/h...ive-to-work-w/

Quote:
For full-touch mobile use, capacitive touchscreens are the best solution we've got -- and it has absolutely nothing to do with the iPhone, it has to do with the incremental improvement in usability brought about by near-100 percent touch registration. That's a big deal, because even a 5 percent loss of registration on an on-screen QWERTY keyboard would represent roughly one letter missed every five words (assuming an average word length in the English language of just over 5 letters). Resistive screens have many, many totally valid applications, but put simply, phones aren't one of them; they've been outmoded by a different technology that's more appropriate for the size and use that the average handset sees. Registration issues aside, fingers are larger than styli, and when a resistive display is registering an unweighted pinpoint coordinate, you end up ironically losing accuracy -- a benefit touted by resistive that's really only realized if you're using a stylus full-time. No one's claiming that capacitive screens are the magic elixir to make human digits achieve superhuman accuracy on a tiny screen, but... you know, step one is making sure the phone knows you pressed something.


Anyhow, HTC's now claiming that the just-announced Tattoo has gone resistive because its 2.8-inch screen is simply too small "to be accurate with" as a capacitive. The company's tweet goes on to say that resistive "ends up registering fewer miss-clicks," which could be argued -- maybe -- were users expected to use styli. Android is not and was never designed as a stylus-driven platform, and unless HTC's driving in that dubious direction, the claim is bunk. More realistically, the resistive display is probably a cost sacrifice the company made to keep sticker shock to a minimum, which is fair enough -- HTC's trying to cover many market segments with Android, as it should -- but we wish they'd been upfront about it.

HangLoose 2009-09-09 13:38
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
I used to like engadget and listen to their podcast but it got to a point that reading their articles (when they are nokia related) gives me a pain in the heart... Seriously, makes me angry just by reading so I stopped before a heart attack.

They are such Apple fan boys... When Apple fills a patent, theres an article just showing some drawings and its a HUUUGE deal.

N900 came out... foot note and sarcasm.

I really really reaaaaally hope that N900 outsells iPhone, iPods, MacBooks even apples just for them to shut up.

barry99705 2009-09-09 14:59
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HangLoose (Post 324268)
I used to like engadget and listen to their podcast but it got to a point that reading their articles (when they are nokia related) gives me a pain in the heart... Seriously, makes me angry just by reading so I stopped before a heart attack.

They are such Apple fan boys... When Apple fills a patent, theres an article just showing some drawings and its a HUUUGE deal.

N900 came out... foot note and sarcasm.

I really really reaaaaally hope that N900 outsells iPhone, iPods, MacBooks even apples just for them to shut up.
That would require them to you know, actually sell them. Hey, maybe they ought to make some ads for them as well. So far it's been the same as their tablets, all the nerds know about it, and that's about it. How long has Nokia been making internet tablets? I bet you could ask 100 people at a mall, and I'd say 95% of them have never heard of one. Nokia makes pretty cool stuff, they really suck at marketing though. Maybe with the phone it will be different. Hopefully this time when they release an OS update they all don't go on holiday the next freaking day....

mobiledivide 2009-09-09 15:15
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
Lol, I read that yesterday and almost spit out my tea. Some Engadget writers are hilarious at how little they really know about tech being that they write for the biggest tech website out there. I do have them on the RSS though because they get some interesting devices through their offices/dorm rooms.

I am definitely in the resistive camp vs capacitive. After owning an iPod touch for the last couple of months, I still completely fail to understand what people are talking about when they say resistive is COMPLETELY inferior. Maybe it's because I have been using touchscreens for 7 years that I appreciate the improvements of resistive tech and like using a stylus sometimes. I can use the iPod touch screen fine but I think the problem with a lot of these bloggers is the ONLY touchscreen device/smartphone they have ever had is an iPhone and they can't train their brains to use anything different. They also seem to think a stylus is a terrible thing but seriously what's the difference between that and a pen and a pad?

Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 324265)
Engadget outdid themselves today, actually telling they know better than the device manufacturer - if you do don't do capacitive, you suck. They actually think the only reason to use capacitive screens is to lower cost.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/h...ive-to-work-w/

pelago 2009-09-19 14:32
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
I've been kind of neutral on the resistive vs capacitive debate at the moment, having hardly had any experience of capacitive other than a few swipes on a shop demo iPhone. But I do have one question:

If capacitive screens are only usable by fingers, does that mean that I could place a capacitive screen device into a pocket without having to lock the screen, with no worry that on-screen stuff would get activated (as long as I'm careful when I remove it from the pocket)?

If the above is true, to me that would be useful. I find the lock button on the N810 fiddly (although maybe the N900 one is better) and it would be nice to not have to use it.

ysss 2009-09-19 14:42
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
@pelago: i think that's true, as long as the pocket isn't damp. But, most people wouldn't want to take the chance of the phone dialing out your boss\lover\bastard by a technical faux pas.. plus the screen would be prone to misclick during the times of you putting the device in\taking it out of the pocket\shuffling it for comfort.

And what about power drain if you don't turn off the screen (both the lcd\oled and the touch screen sensor).

pelago 2009-09-19 14:50
Re: Sensitivity of touch screen
 
Thanks. I was assuming that the screen would blank after a couple of minutes, although I realise that wouldn't stop the sensor.


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