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Gorgon 2009-09-20 16:17

Re: N900 in business environment
 
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Originally Posted by epilido (Post 330255)
@handrea, @pelago

If outlook support is the big stumbling block I would sit back and watch a little while. People may be able to port this type functionality but I don't think its going to be high on the list.

Epi

Given that Nokia is advertising support for Exchange Active Sync that tells me that Outlooks sync should be available out of the box for cabled or BT sync as well. But honestly it's a wait and see game. I'd love to be able to trial a device to see how well it works in an Active Sync environment to support my corporate account. Highly recommended to wait and see for messaging previews.

luca 2009-09-20 17:10

Re: N900 in business environment
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 330230)
Since those are common tasks for most IT heads and geeks, I expect a solution to be forthcoming pretty quickly.

Since IT heads and geeks with at least a working neuron avoid exchange (and any other ms server for that matter) like the plague, they won't be the ones providing the solution.

christexaport 2009-09-20 23:07

Re: N900 in business environment
 
I said to rely on his previous Exchange solution until one comes out. He said he was interested in the N900, and I do suggest he buy one, but its just my suggestion. I, too, have heard alot of requests for Exchange support, so I expect it, in this situation, and am fairly confident in Nokia, especially having used many of their Eseries devices. Its just an opinion, but if Nokia wants to sell many of them, they'll get an Exchange solution. Since Nokia and Microsoft are seemingly in bed on alot of stuff lately, I'm not reaching as far as it may seem.

SD69 2009-09-20 23:17

Re: N900 in business environment
 
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Originally Posted by Gorgon (Post 330261)
Given that Nokia is advertising support for Exchange Active Sync that tells me that Outlooks sync should be available out of the box for cabled or BT sync as well.

AFAIK, that is for Symbian only, not Maemo.

epilido 2009-09-20 23:27

Re: N900 in business environment
 
I have taken a stance that when I see it running or someone trustworthy with a device says that it works then it works. Speculating and suggesting that someone buy a device that they may hate and not use, then possibly talk bad about to all of their corporate friends is bad form IMHO.

A week ago there was a little discussion between myself and GA about usbotg and the ability for the n900 to use external devices. now Quim writes that it is a hardware limit and that the n900 does not support usb host mode.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=339

Lets stop suggesting people go and buy with limited information or supposition.

I think we all want the device to be a hit but up selling suspected features that are not known to be present is very detrimental

Epi

handrea 2009-09-20 23:56

Re: N900 in business environment
 
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Originally Posted by bigr3dd0g (Post 329946)
if you want great outlook integration, i think your best bet would be to stay with windows mobile. windows mobile 6.5 is coming out soon...all the samsung omnia's as well as the new bigass htc phone will be getting wm6.5 which hopefully will be much better than wm 6.1.

Hi, thank you for suggestion but I think I'll never rollback to Windows Mobile. It was incredible buggy and in the core functionality (not advanced). For example, one of the most important reason I'm switching to another device is exit from nightmare of customer calling me every day listening my phone ringing and with my phone completely mute without any trace of call. Same with SMS.

handrea 2009-09-20 23:59

Re: N900 in business environment
 
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Originally Posted by Suurorca (Post 330169)
The Ovi Suite should, I think, provide this functionality once it adds support for n900. Still, I'd wait until the thing is out to make sure...

Of course, If you hated the previous PC suite, I don't think this is going to be much better experience

My real problem was not the program itself, I could use even an ugly software or not fully confortable.
The real important matter is data integrity: we buy expensive device with super maxi features.. ..and we're not able to keep our data.. From my perspective sometimes I feel like we miss the basis
:D focusing on extras..

handrea 2009-09-21 00:07

Re: N900 in business environment
 
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Originally Posted by Gorgon (Post 330254)
I haven't seen anything on the Exchange Active Sync support to fully understand what it's bringing to the table. If it's a port of the S60 Mail for Exchange app then I hope that it's the new client with improved integration. They finally bring subfolder support to Mail for Exchange with an improved interface. If it's a port of the S60v5 app then it's going to leave something to be desired. Lack of subfolder support at this point is pretty unacceptable. And there may be those that think that since it isn't targeted for the corporate market that this is okay... It's not. If you're going to advertise a feature, do it correctly.


You're right Gorgon. Infact one think is scaring me is that this device belongs to the N-series and not to the E-one (if I understood, Nokia usese E for business devices). So I'm wondering if I'll do the best waiting for an E-class N900 like device but I don't know if is there any planning.
In general do you think that buy and use an N-series device in business environment could be a mistake?


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Originally Posted by Gorgon (Post 330254)
As to PC Suite sync, you are correct about the field differentials between Nokia devices and Outlook. I've lost all kinds of numbers because of field differentials. They've improved it a bit but the real rule of thumb that I've followed to stay safe is to ALWAYS enter your contact information into Outlook and sync it to the device and not the other way around. This helps to maintain your data and prevent loss.

Yes! I must say that the only think my WindowsMobile is able to do is the contacts device-to-outlook sync. I know that the best (safe) solutions is the one way syncronization (outlook>device) but in my busy life the reversed sync is really preciuos.. If I'm away from office, if I add/update a contact I've got all the data sync. :)

handrea 2009-09-21 00:13

Re: N900 in business environment
 
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Originally Posted by Gorgon (Post 330261)
[...] But honestly it's a wait and see game. I'd love to be able to trial a device to see how well it works in an Active Sync environment to support my corporate account. Highly recommended to wait and see for messaging previews.

Yes you're right but, even after products release, I usually have difficulties to understand this aspect: all the review (the main part..) focuses on WOW features rather than device behaviour / compatibility / issues in everyday work and real scenario.
I always see something like "Cool! Tapping here you can compose an email..." but suddently I think "Ok, nice, but guys, is there anyone is really using that program?"
I mean: use a program is different to be a guest/visitor of it :D:D.
P.S. If you want I can write for you a deep review related to Windows Mobile and HTC in real world :D

zkyevolved 2009-09-21 23:44

Re: N900 in business environment
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 330230)
Well, I don't think its a good idea to suggest WinMo to this gentleman since he already expressed his disdain for it. Since this IS a Maemo forum, I suggest you go ahead with the N900, but rely on your old WinMo device for corporate email and syncing until the community creates a solution. Since those are common tasks for most IT heads and geeks, I expect a solution to be forthcoming pretty quickly.

If you get a new WinMo device, you'll be stuck with it for the 18-24 months until the next upgrade. Instead, just get the N900 and have faith in the community. You aren't the only one wanting those features, and this community is designed to fulfill the needs of the OS and its users. From what I've seen, it works pretty well.

I look forward to great syncing apps for the N900 very soon.


Ummm... Question!

http://maemo.nokia.com and click email at the very bottom and it CLEARLY states "exchange for mail" pushing mail, contacts and calendar to your phone... Isn't this what everyone is waiting for? :S ....

Or are you all talking about syncing software for your PC/MAC/UNIX-LINUX system?

As long as I can sync to Google, I'm set. :)


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