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RevdKathy 2009-10-20 17:37

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
Small comment: I know this is aimed at those who got devices at the Summit. But if you wanted a wider audience, you might want to delay until after the due despatch date in most areas.

VDVsx 2009-10-20 18:00

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 352887)
Small comment: I know this is aimed at those who got devices at the Summit. But if you wanted a wider audience, you might want to delay until after the due despatch date in most areas.

No need, we can do more sessions later, depending on the number of applications in testing.

Texrat 2009-10-20 18:20

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 352693)
It feels almost stupid that this has to be organized at all because this should ALREADY BE HAPPENING ANYWAYS. 300 people got N900s at Summit and apparently aren't interested in helping at all. Incredible.

Come on, Jay, that's a huge overstatement. I've already seen *some* activity arising from the 300 device handout.

But in my case, I wanted to use it at least a week before entering bugs or blogging about the experience. I've already discovered that several bugs aren't really bugs per se but rather possible enhancement requests or me misunderstanding a purpose. So I see some value in taking stock of the devices THEN taking some big plunges. Like this one.

zerojay 2009-10-20 18:39

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 352943)
Come on, Jay, that's a huge overstatement. I've already seen *some* activity arising from the 300 device handout.

But in my case, I wanted to use it at least a week before entering bugs or blogging about the experience. I've already discovered that several bugs aren't really bugs per se but rather possible enhancement requests or me misunderstanding a purpose. So I see some value in taking stock of the devices THEN taking some big plunges. Like this one.

(Yes, some activity. I'm not talking about development work at all here in this thread.)

I don't think it's that much of a huge overstatement at all, actually. I've only seen, at most, maybe four or five new names appear on http://www.maemo.org/packages/ that weren't there already before Summit. No packages have seen massive jumps in thumbs up like we were expecting.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to savour the taste of the N900 before diving in with filing bugs. That takes time to do properly. It takes more information and work and reproduction steps and all that jazz. That's understandable.

Clicking a thumbs up or thumbs down to say "works for me", which takes all of 10 seconds to do, should not somehow get in the way of you taking your time with your device before filing bugs. In fact, it's the PERFECT time to be doing it because you're going to be trying out all sorts of packages to play with on your fun new toy.

It's just very discouraging when 300 people got to go to Summit, get new devices and then don't bother to take the time to vote on a package or two in return. I didn't expect everyone to do it... but at least a somewhat decent amount. 50 out of 300 people voting on at least one package shouldn't be too much to ask, but apparently it was. And I can totally understand that if these were normal end users who didn't want to bother or don't know how or whatever... but these are developers and power users.

I wasn't there, but maybe Nokia didn't push the idea of voting on packages to the 300. I don't know. And now I'm just rambling because I'm just frustrated.

EIPI 2009-10-20 18:43

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
I agree with Texrat - I have many enhancement requests, based upon how I feel things could be improved with the basic OS.

I have only installed 3 applications from Extras-Testing (Dataplan Monitor, WordPy and Mauku), and again, no bugs encountered. I guess I should then give thumbs up where appropriate - I did not even know the existence of this page until qole put it out there. Thanks!

qwerty12 2009-10-20 18:44

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 352887)
Small comment: I know this is aimed at those who got devices at the Summit. But if you wanted a wider audience, you might want to delay until after the due despatch date in most areas.

The point is to have as much applications in Extras (stable and working ones, of course) available before the devices are shipped. Of course, with Nokia choosing to ship them, as always, with Extras disabled, not sure what the rush is...

EIPI 2009-10-20 18:45

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
zerojay - you've hit one frustration point that I have with the loaned devices. We were told that we had them for evaluation, but we were not told how to provide any feedback! At least this information was not provided publicly at the Summit.

zerojay 2009-10-20 18:46

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
I guess it also doesn't help that the interface is somewhat confusing. Be sure you're clicking on the particular version of the package you are testing so that you can give it a thumbs up from this page: http://maemo.org/packages/repository...xtras-testing/

zerojay 2009-10-20 18:47

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EIPI (Post 352979)
zerojay - you've hit one frustration point that I have with the loaned devices. We were told that we had them for evaluation, but we were not told how to provide any feedback! At least this information was not provided publicly at the Summit.

Maybe they knew all along they were going to ship with Extras disabled, so they just didn't bring it up to you guys. *sigh*

mikkov 2009-10-20 18:48

Re: Extras-testing marathon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 352975)
The point is to have as much applications in Extras (stable and working ones, of course) available before the devices are shipped. Of course, with Nokia choosing to ship them, as always, with Extras disabled, not sure what the rush is...

Is it really disabled? (source)

edit: or is it really enabled? (source) (I have no idea)


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