maemo.org - Talk
Page 2 of 10 1 2 34 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   Community (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=16)
-   -   A No Thanks, of sorts (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33168)

smarsh 2009-10-20 15:21
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by livefreeordie (Post 352704)
This doesn't make sense... If we can trust people to not misuse a negative karma system, what would we need it for in the first place?
Very good... Tautologies...

We can't of course. In either case.

The question then becomes: do you want a free for all or a potentially community-moderated forum. The thing about 'community-moderated' with reputation is that we have to hope that the community is grown up enough to *be* moderate. Oddly enough, it generally is, and if it forgets, well, then there are 'moderators'...

zerojay 2009-10-20 15:22
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 4442

Had to do it. ;)

Texrat 2009-10-20 16:09
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smarsh (Post 352701)
why would one 'No Thanks' a thread/post they disagreed with? Makes no sense to me.
I've seen it happen almost every time/everywhere it was implemented.

Like zerojay said, sounds great in theory, works poorly in practice for the most part.

And I don't think this place wants to become another slash dot. The current forum "personality" is fine IMO.

Flandry 2009-10-20 16:19
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 352763)
I've seen it happen almost every time/everywhere it was implemented.

LOike zerojay said, sounds great in theory, works poorly in practice for the most part.

And I don't think this place wants to become another slash dot. The current forum "personality" is fine IMO.
I think the OP's point is that the personality is going to be changing one way or another due to changing demographic and population density, and to manage that change there's a need for more tools.

I don't think a head-in-the-sand approach is the best one, but i can see the other side of this for sure.

GeneralAntilles 2009-10-20 16:29
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 352774)
I think the OP's point is that the personality is going to be changing one way or another due to changing demographic and population density, and to manage that change there's a need for more tools.
That's what the report button is for. I'm personally in favor of more agressive thread locking guidelines (how many threads in the last week or so have devolved into pages and pages of useless bickering between a handful of members?), but No Thanks! is just going to

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 352774)
I don't think a head-in-the-sand approach is the best one, but i can see the other side of this for sure.
C'mon, can we try to avoid going down that path here? :)

CrashandDie 2009-10-20 16:31
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 352774)
I think the OP's point is that the personality is going to be changing one way or another due to changing demographic and population density, and to manage that change there's a need for more tools.

I don't think a head-in-the-sand approach is the best one, but i can see the other side of this for sure.
Yes, and with the growth of population in the world at large, maybe we should implement a Spanish forum, or a Chinese one, and one for refugees, or one that gives tips on how to use your NIT in case of natural disasters.

The problem with this behaviour, is that by implementing a bunch of "what-if" scenarios, you end up going right past the important stuff. I'd rather not insult the possible newcomers and at least try to keep things working as they are now. Worst case scenario, we see a bit of a flame here and there, and if things get out of hand, we can start thinking about solutions.

lemmyslender 2009-10-20 16:48
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 352708)
I think a negative vote isn't a good concept to implement in a community because it can easily foster ill will and many tit-for-tat fights.

I'd suggest reducing the karmic value of basic 'thanks' to 1/5th of its current value, and adding a 'Useful' button\flag that has the value of current Thanks.

This way we can still pass on our 'thanks' for those friendly and entertaining posts but have the option of giving a more weighty 'Useful' post that we deem more worthy.
I'd go so far as to suggest removing thanks from the karma count altogether. After seeing the comment that threads were closed due to complaints about thanks/karma, I was struck by how often I've seen that abused in other threads.

There are plenty of threads I've read / participated in where 3-4 people thanked each other in nearly every post in the thread just for sharing the same viewpoint, not for actual useful posts. Seems like karma whoring (pimping?) to me.

If we are going to start closing/moving threads for karma whoring, it should be done with an even hand, whether light or heavy.

Flandry 2009-10-20 16:49
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 352793)
That's what the report button is for. I'm personally in favor of more agressive thread locking guidelines (how many threads in the last week or so have devolved into pages and pages of useless bickering between a handful of members?), but No Thanks! is just going to
The thing is, otherwise good threads go down in flames this way. I'm in favor of a broader context for reporting a post. I'm also fine with letting the mods handle it once it's reported. If the mods are fine with it, that's cool. It's tried and proven. I'm only posting here because i like to find optimal solutions and i don't think that's it.

Quote:
C'mon, can we try to avoid going down that path here? :)
What path? There's a wait-and-see/there's-not-a-problem camp and a things-are-changing/let's-move-to-intercept camp. It is appearing that the senior majority is in the former, so i will leave it alone.

JayOnThaBeat 2009-10-20 16:50
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 352822)
I'd go so far as to suggest removing thanks from the karma count altogether. After seeing the comment that threads were closed due to complaints about thanks/karma, I was struck by how often I've seen that abused in other threads.

There are plenty of threads I've read / participated in where 3-4 people thanked each other in nearly every post in the thread just for sharing the same viewpoint, not for actual useful posts. Seems like karma whoring (pimping?) to me.

If we are going to start closing/moving threads for karma whoring, it should be done with an even hand, whether light or heavy.
To be fair, that was the single most idiotic thread ever.

smarsh 2009-10-20 16:58
Re: A No Thanks, of sorts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 352823)
What path? There's a wait-and-see/there's-not-a-problem camp and a things-are-changing/let's-move-to-intercept camp. It is appearing that the senior majority is in the former, so i will leave it alone.
Moi aussi. C'était seulement une pensée...


All times are GMT. The time now is 14:18.
Page 2 of 10 1 2 34 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8