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volt 2009-11-04 14:11

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
Interesting review.

I don't think that sounded at all like a Iphone fanboy. That was by far the fairest review of a non-capacitive screen I have seen. As a non-believer, that was a relief. I read one iFanboy who complained how wearisome it was to have to press a resistive screen. I know the turtleneck crowd is starving to send all available money to the cult headquarters, but noone is allowed to be that weak.

eikido 2009-11-05 15:24

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
"Videos files: The Nokia N900 is capable of playing DVD-resolution videos. The real issue is to find digital video files that have been properly sized and compressed to take advantage of the device's screen and decoding capabilities. "

What does he mean??

Video playback formats: Video playback file formats: .mp4, .avi, .wmv, .3gp; codecs: H.264, MPEG-4, Xvid, WMV, H.263. Video streaming formats: H.264, MPEG-4, Xvid, WMV, H.263 in .avi, .mp4, .wmv, .asf and .3gp containers.

bugelrex 2009-11-05 16:16

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eikido (Post 366339)
"Videos files: The Nokia N900 is capable of playing DVD-resolution videos. The real issue is to find digital video files that have been properly sized and compressed to take advantage of the device's screen and decoding capabilities. "

What does he mean??

Video playback formats: Video playback file formats: .mp4, .avi, .wmv, .3gp; codecs: H.264, MPEG-4, Xvid, WMV, H.263. Video streaming formats: H.264, MPEG-4, Xvid, WMV, H.263 in .avi, .mp4, .wmv, .asf and .3gp containers.

He might have had some high resolution, high bitrate videos that were giving the n900 some troubles. Be interesting to see more reviews from non-Nokia employees and fanboys.

dammsaint 2009-11-05 16:37

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
Again an Again.....

Why do you have to compare the n900 with the iphone? its the n900 for the same target ? i dont think so.

As i said before iphone its for my sister and my little brother, cmon guys grow up, if you want a boring device like iphone just buy an iphone and stop argueing about the n900 and the iphone.

Other point its about the GPU, the SGX535 its on the iphone and the SGX530 its on the n900, but you can do wherever you want to develop using the SGX530, on the iphone you can do it only if you hack the phone, every time a new firmware comes you need to hack it. On the n900 you can do a lot of things without hack it because its an open plataform. what you can do on the iphone that you cant do on the n900? MMS? thats it? or just some apps that are useless?

n900 doesnt have a capacitive screen but its a phone with a linux distribution, that means you can do a lot of things that you ONLY can do on a real pc.

my opinion again.

bugelrex 2009-11-05 17:09

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dammsaint (Post 366399)
Again an Again.....

Why do you have to compare the n900 with the iphone? its the n900 for the same target ? i dont think so.

As i said before iphone its for my sister and my little brother, cmon guys grow up, if you want a boring device like iphone just buy one and stop argue about the n900 and the iphone.


my opinion again.

Here are the things that are reasonable to compare with the iphone
- music quality
- possibly video quality, but only with the exact same file that can be played on both units
- call quality/reception on the same network
- ease of scratch of screen
- brightness, resolution of screen
- ease of writing/publishing apps for developer
- speed of browser on a non-flash non-mobile site
- talk tme
- percentage of miss-hits with the touch screen
- accuracy of touch screen and which apps require that accuracy.
- camera. n900 camera got good comments from:
http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/2009/11/...he-nokia-n900/

Rushmore 2009-11-05 17:27

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 363462)
I've had occasional lag, but I get that on my PC too.

Yeah, overall, I'm VERY impressed with Flash and YouTube in particular. BIG improvements over N8xx.

Texrat, could you be a bud and try some games out at Addicting games.com to see how well Flash games work? There are a ton of fun and quick games there. Lots of arcade type and so forth and good test for how well N900's Flash works for basic web content.

I also would like to know if you can play the Flash games in full screen.

eean 2009-11-05 17:53

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
He was talking about Hulu.com when he said it wasn't usable. He specifically mentioned youtube.com worked fine. Hulu.com doesn't work really at all, I guess because they use better codecs or a higher resolution or something.

The reviewer was apparently clueless about Flash 10 mobile, even though it made big news a few weeks ago. I understand that Flash 10 has better optimizations for the current ARM platform. Funny that he thought it was up to Nokia to make it faster. I'm sure they would if they had the power to.

The only other "huh?" part was where he noted that its nice that you can use your fingernail, but that he wished it had multitouch. As I understand it, its impossible to have both. I rather like being able to use my fingernail. :)

I'm still waiting for some reviewer to post my main gripe: what kind of 'mobile computer' doesn't have an external card slot? I was looking forward to being able to post pictures from my camera. I guess pretty much all reviews jibe Nokia for calling a smartphone a mobile computer so I can't complain. :)

But overall I thought it was a good and fair review.

CaptainGinyu 2009-11-05 18:11

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eean (Post 366517)
He was talking about Hulu.com when he said it wasn't usable. He specifically mentioned youtube.com worked fine. Hulu.com doesn't work really at all, I guess because they use better codecs or a higher resolution or something.

The reviewer was apparently clueless about Flash 10 mobile, even though it made big news a few weeks ago. I understand that Flash 10 has better optimizations for the current ARM platform. Funny that he thought it was up to Nokia to make it faster. I'm sure they would if they had the power to.

The only other "huh?" part was where he noted that its nice that you can use your fingernail, but that he wished it had multitouch. As I understand it, its impossible to have both. I rather like being able to use my fingernail. :)

I'm still waiting for some reviewer to post my main gripe: what kind of 'mobile computer' doesn't have an external card slot? I was looking forward to being able to post pictures from my camera. I guess pretty much all reviews jibe Nokia for calling a smartphone a mobile computer so I can't complain. :)

But overall I thought it was a good and fair review.

You can put in a 16 GB SDHC. What else do you need?

eean 2009-11-05 18:21

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainGinyu (Post 366527)
You can put in a 16 GB SDHC. What else do you need?

You have to open up the back which makes scary noises. And it looks fragile... its obvious that your supposed to get a SDHC card, stick it in your phone and never take it out again. Like you do. On Phones. :)

c0rt3x 2009-11-05 18:35

Re: Another N900 Review (übergizmo)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by migs (Post 363200)
I found it interesting that the GPU in the iphone SGX535 is faster (more polygons per sec) that the GPU in the N900 SGX530. Its incredible how the iphone 3gs has been out for months and has better hardware than alot of the phones barley being released now

Yeah, I agree about the Iphone 3GS' GPU superiority (by far), but what else would Nokia do when OMAP3 doesn't give a choise of which GPU will be integrated on the SoC. Also keep in mind that the most Iphone apps are made for all Iphones, and the first two Iphones had a pathetic GPU (14 times slower than the N900's for comparison).

To be honest, the GPU is the only advantage of the Iphone (3GS only), while higher screen resolution, more total application memory, and higher CPU clock speed are other factors that should be considered as well, and all of those are making a contribution to a better gaming experience on the N900, not the Iphone.


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