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olighak 2009-11-11 02:52

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
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Originally Posted by r0eladn (Post 372023)
with very high pressure sand can slice through 2 inches of stainless steel.

Or use water under 3500bar pressure to do the same.

drew 2009-11-11 03:20

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
So they only delayed shipping for firmware/software issues?

schaggo 2009-11-11 04:17

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
Which doesn't seem to be out of place regaring a certain thread which appears under "Active Topics": " 'Out of memory' and UI freezes on N900" (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34150)

lorelei 2009-11-11 07:55

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
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Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 371989)
The hardware will be exactly the same.
Any changes they make need to go through FCC again and I don't think that's possible within a month time (Maemo summit until today)

not wanting to nitpick, but maybe hardware changes went for certification before the summit..which may lead to different HW between the summit and the retail version.

In any case I doubt that there were any HW changes that close to the release...it's not something you usually do a few months before releasing a product (at least in theory...we all know that practice is a different beast :))

range 2009-11-11 08:18

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
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Originally Posted by drew (Post 372032)
So they only delayed shipping for firmware/software issues?

You didn't really think that they would be able to change hardware during two to three weeks or even a month?

ragnar 2009-11-11 09:07

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
I think you could be pretty sure that if the hardware would gain some new abilities that we would certainly promote them. The equation of "let's delay to make HW improvements and let's not tell about these improvements" doesn't make much sense.

Alex Atkin UK 2009-11-11 09:21

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
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Originally Posted by schaggo (Post 372048)
Which doesn't seem to be out of place regaring a certain thread which appears under "Active Topics": " 'Out of memory' and UI freezes on N900" (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34150)

Which from everything I have seen is ONLY happening to people using "extra-testing" repo as un-optified packages are filling up the root partition. This is not something which can be fixed on the device itself, but delaying will have allowed more time to get the packages themselves fixed and moved over to "extras".

Basically, if you use software from "extra-testing", expect "out of memory" and other random glitches. Only users who know how to fix such problems are meant to use that repository.

lma 2009-11-11 09:58

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 372140)
Which from everything I have seen is ONLY happening to people using "extra-testing" repo as un-optified packages are filling up the root partition.

That may be part of it in some cases, but there's an actual bug that leaks around 3.5MB every time the GTK icon cache is updated (eg by installing/uninstalling stuff). So staying away from extras-testing isn't enough to avoid / filling up for the time being.

chemist 2009-11-11 10:15

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
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Originally Posted by r0eladn (Post 372023)
with very high pressure sand can slice through 2 inches of stainless steel.

so does water! whats the point in your info? I could use bare bodies to do that as long as the pressure is high enough.

schaggo 2009-11-12 22:58

Re: Any hardware differences between production and pre-release?
 
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Originally Posted by ragnar (Post 372130)
I think you could be pretty sure that if the hardware would gain some new abilities that we would certainly promote them.

Hmm... they didn't even promote all the features the current, "long time announced" hardware has. The FM-receiver for example only got very rarely mentioned and is nowhere to be found on the (my local) Nokia site.

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Originally Posted by chemist (Post 372188)
I could use bare bodies to do that as long as the pressure is high enough.

Made me giggle :D


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