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Re: Religious talk...

I don't really care of the supposed predictions, since I totally don't believe they're predictions, and I'd like to stay out of the debate since I've seen too many threads like this become long without any solution or anybody changing his idea, but wanted to share this link:
http://listverse.com/2007/11/12/top-...-coincidences/

Found it compatible with the "predictions" subject, and funny to read ^^
Bye

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I didn't see the other thread so I'm not sure what this is continuing from, but I assume that anyone who has read accurate predictions about the future has made HUGE piles of money on the stock market...

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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 377516)

Wow! I haven't even made a single point as to what events are predicted. I have to say you've made a rushed judgement without allowing me to speak. You assume I don't know anything you haven't already heard, but I'm sure I do. Have you even read the entire Bible? Studied the translations, Greek Septugiant, and even ancient scrolls like the Nabonidus Stone, Dead Sea Scrolls, and Hezekiah Scrolls? Do you know the origin of the knowledge you do have of the Bible? Don't blame me for those that fed you BS. It is your responsibility to make sure your knowledge is accurate, and I've done just that. I'm not asking that I be trusted, just listened to. I rarely am, since today's man is trivial about spiritual matters....

Relax Chris.

You would be utterly amazed with how much Bible reading and research, core and ancillary, I've conducted over the decades. Yes, that includes Dead Sea Scrolls and even the Kabbalah, Apocrypha, Gnostic Gospels, Babylonian mythology, etc. You're making the same mistake you're accusing me of making. ;)

What I'm calling pre-emptive BS on is not your treatment of the subject (you jumped just a bit too quickly there Chris) but the concept of "scientifically proving God" itself. Science can certainly suggest the existence of God (a la the Anthropic Principle and related philsosophical memes) but it can neither prove nor disprove the existence of an unseen higher spiritual power. All of these arguments are instead philosophical.

Wikipedia treats the subject objectively:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God

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Originally Posted by realitygaps (Post 377558)

שלום

Dont really want to get into this, but I have 25 years of full time bible learning (in the original hebrew in which im fluent, plus aramaic texts that comment on it) and a degree in religious studies, plus I taught kabbalah for a number of years.

There are countless flaws all over the old testament and it in no way can be considered authoritative. This includes dates, nations, people, places and many other mistakes.

Ahhh... someone whose brain I'd like to pick. I'm sure you get as big a chuckle as I do out of these debates that focus on the literal bible-- knowing all the while there's the allegorical, metaphorical and esoteric layers to pierce. I'm into the last and, hoo boy, does it rock one's world! Talk about revelations! ;)

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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 377516)

but none of you know my religious affiliation.

i'm a complete n00b and when i first saw your avatar i knew it.

love this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwzTMgwKSt4

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 377592)

i'm a complete n00b and when i first saw your avatar i knew it.

love this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwzTMgwKSt4

2 things:

1. That might be racist.

2. LMFAO |||(not at the racism, at the link)|||

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"But I clearly said my proof was scientific and mathematic."

Chris, just post it here. This is a kosher off-topic thread. I'm optimistic that everyone will behave themselves, and if not, I'm guessing texrat can help take care of the problem children. Let it rip.

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YES, *please* please please *PLEASE* post this mathematical proof that God exists. I'm in dire need of a few laughs right now.

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He didn't promise that the proof wasn't 4,000 pages long... There may be good reasons not to post it here.

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I hope the proof is not too long. I like the parsimonious ones. The kind that mathematicians refer to as being "in the book." :)