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DaveP1 2009-11-18 17:38

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smarsh (Post 380670)
I'm actually quite proud of the New Users though, it has my principles (of one page/2 at most) for small devices working well. Like the intra-page idea though. Could be done v easily. DaveP1 - want to do it?

Done.

Except, I can't get TOP to work (which is a function that multipage entries should have).

I'm using [[#top|top]] which displays fine and sends the URL:

http://wiki.maemo.org/New_users#top

but the browser (Firefox under Windows) is not moving to the top of the page.

Am I doing something wrong or does our version of wiki not support the [[#top]] reserved name?

RevdKathy 2009-11-18 17:48

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
I could probably find a few more questions for the FAQ now... I'll see what I can come up with.

Otherwise, looking good, I think.

ossipena 2009-11-18 17:51

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 381019)
I could probably find a few more questions for the FAQ now... I'll see what I can come up with.

Otherwise, looking good, I think.

go ahead. do it yourself or send message here and i can add them

JosefA 2009-11-18 18:47

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
I see someone's working on an app list. I wrote a python script which autogenerates an app list from maemo.org/downloads. Then I realised it's likely to be overwhelming, so I'll see if I can't fix it to autogenerate the app list broken down by category. It's here nevertheless if useful in its current state.

ossipena 2009-11-19 05:16

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JosefA (Post 381130)
I see someone's working on an app list. I wrote a python script which autogenerates an app list from maemo.org/downloads. Then I realised it's likely to be overwhelming, so I'll see if I can't fix it to autogenerate the app list broken down by category. It's here nevertheless if useful in its current state.

thanks for that. please inform if you get it done by categories. I probably have time tonight for that listing, the app list for now only includes all apps that did have wiki - entry.

mve 2009-11-19 06:39

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
I would like to see Wikipedia like pages for all applications in wiki.maemo.org and I tried to do it few weeks ago for OMWeather. Unfortunately I didn't succeed completely. With some standardized pages user would see all basic information with a quick look of a page. So if anyone knows how to use templates in mediawiki could take a look what wiki.maemo.org is missing would be great.

Those pages could also have information how to use each application as there is no help framework in Frematle.

I was thinking something like box in wikipedia pages have for applications e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox

JosefA 2009-11-19 12:05

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mve (Post 381740)
I would like to see Wikipedia like pages for all applications in wiki.maemo.org

Yes, that's precisely why I linkified everything in my autogenerated app list. That way even if an app's page doesn't exist it shows up in the list of missing pages and - more importantly - in the Most wanted MW page if the app is popular enough.

I really think the wiki just needs 3 things:
  1. A semblance of structure, with the frontpage/Intro merged, and the structure there reused for sub-themes, like thematic portals
  2. linkify more. Existing pages need to interlink more intensively
  3. Once the two elements above are accomplished, then the two special pages Most wanted and Orphaned pages will be the place where we can see very precisely and specifically what pages need creation or categorisation/linking.

I'll see if I have some time to make that autogenerated list by category.

RevdKathy 2009-11-19 19:46

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
I drew this up as a sort of 'tree' for the imformation flow for Maemo basics or new users. The FAQ lists are by no means exhaustive. But I felt we needed to be certain we have the framework right first.

http://www.revdkathy.co.uk/wikitree.pdf

edgedemon 2009-11-19 20:40

Re: [AGITATION] Fresh eyes and brains needed for further wiki improvement
 
I have just spent a good 20 mins browsing around and I have to say guys, Im seriously impressed with all the work that has gone on, there is a wealth of information in there.
Regarding structure

It's purely personal and what is OK for one is not for another, so I suggest leaving it until Xmas and then we can have a review. I think we need to see what sort of questions are being asked and where the wiki is not working before changing anything. Im hoping that is where us greeters can help, we should be able to edit the FAQs to reflect what the community are asking, and being on the front line should get an idea on how well the wiki works?

Just a shame that some of us still have a while before we get our phones

One thing that did occur to me - how likely is it that developers have to create a wiki entry for their apps to get past the Q&A process :eek:

Ducks down and prepares for the horde of angry Dev comments!!!


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