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ossipena 2009-12-04 08:01

Re: Non Linux techy N900 users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romanianusa (Post 409119)
To this date, i still don't know how to make emulator work...i am sure there are a lot of peeps out there know how to run it and what to type in xterminal to make it work....but i ttrry all and nothing happened.

The sad part?? Nobody is able to help out...
I ask a simple question...what the hell do you type in order to get the file running?? They mentioned some bullshyt like dpkg -i <file name>

But i type that and doesn't work...for example...dpkg -i appinstaller.deb or dpkg -i /Nokia N900/appinstaller.deb

The problem is it is not able to locate the file...i don't even fking know what specific address is...trying to figure this damm thing out ..just the address and location of the damm file. LIke some people mentioned...home/user/....and i am like where the heck did you get that?? It's pretty annoying. They're like go read the linux commands...but i did and i have no clue what the hell they're talking about.

that is very good sign not to do it unless you are ready to bear the risk that your device becomes a brick (and after that it is necessary that you have the skills to reflash it. NSU @ windows could be incapable to do it, so: http://wiki.maemo.org/Flasher )

but after this intro:

open terminal (ctrl + shift + x)
write
find / -name appinstaller.deb
press enter
this should return something like
/home/user/MyDocs/appinstaller.deb

then write exactly the line find returned behind dpkg -i, like this:
dpkg -i /home/user/MyDocs/appinstaller.deb

and in the future: RTFM

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+terminal+howto
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO.html

youre requesting total spoonfeeding.

if you aren't a linux geek, you just have to wait for stable apps. the road to terminal commands isn't so rosy, it could render your device easily useless. and installing unstable apps can do almost anything to your device (delete everything ever existed in your device for example), without QA no-one will be responsible for anything. that is good reason imo to stick with extras. the apps will go fairly quickly to extras in the end so couple weeks waiting could save ones life when unstable app creates a worst case scenario.

jiiv 2009-12-04 08:42

Re: Non Linux techy N900 users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 409195)
if you aren't a linux geek, you just have to wait for stable apps. the road to terminal commands isn't so rosy, it could render your device easily useless. and installing unstable apps can do almost anything to your device (delete everything ever existed in your device for example), without QA no-one will be responsible for anything. that is good reason imo to stick with extras. the apps will go fairly quickly to extras in the end so couple weeks waiting could save ones life when unstable app creates a worst case scenario.

Indeed, I was just thinking this sort of thing. I'm wondering how we can best address this sort of question? Maybe a wiki page (with lots of disclaimers) explaining a few very basic topics (like installing via dpkg), or a linux usage subforum that this sort of thing could be moved to? Given the current influx of *nix neophytes we really should try and figure something out...unfortunately TMO isn't really geared toward training users on the cli.
I'm happy to help people out when I can, but I'm afraid that the n900 is going to result in a ton of linux support questions.

pelago 2009-12-04 10:13

Re: Non Linux techy N900 users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jiiv (Post 409138)
Did you already download the .deb onto the tablet? If you can find it in the file manager, you can probably click on it there to run the installer.

Unfortunately that doesn't work on Maemo 5/N900, so you have to use dpkg -i.

Andre Klapper 2009-12-04 10:54

Re: Non Linux techy N900 users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romanianusa (Post 409119)
To this date, i still don't know how to make emulator work...i am sure there are a lot of peeps out there know how to run it and what to type in xterminal to make it work....but i ttrry all and nothing happened.

The sad part?? Nobody is able to help out...
I ask a simple question...what the hell do you type in order to get the file running?? They mentioned some bullshyt like dpkg -i <file name>

But i type that and doesn't work...for example...dpkg -i appinstaller.deb or dpkg -i /Nokia N900/appinstaller.deb

The problem is it is not able to locate the file...

No, the problem is that you are vague wherever possible by writing stuff like "i ttrry all and nothing happened" or by not posting the exact error you run into nor the command you used.
Hence you run into problems because you're probably doing something wrong, but you blame the people in this forum for it.


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