Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

True, but have you heard of a case in the US/UK of an emulator with legality issues. (the actual emulator software)

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

There is a difference between The Law, and legislative acts of fiat, btw:

http://phreadom.blogspot.com/2008/05...s-fiction.html

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

Bleem! ring any bells? ooh and Dr SS (ongoing). The point I was trying to make is that lack of successfull litigation doe not make something legall Please be more responsible in your posts.

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

My point - conversely the lack of successful litigation means the software isnt illegal.

At any rate Im not sure what relevance this has to the point in hand.

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

imagine you bought a car, lets say a porsche.
it is illegal to take the engine an put it into a fiat 500??
no it's not illegal, because you paid your porsche.
but it is illegal to take the porsche parts (roms) without paying, or building a car (emulator) with parts you've not paid..

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

I think you will find I mentioned the world outside of the USA. Legal systems around the world are not running on a single model.

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

It would depend on the articals of sale. You may not like it but there are places where this type or restriction is legal. I didn't say I thought it was sensible just that it happens.

Regardless of that this post doesn't work. If you write an emmulator there is a requirement to either reverse engineeroperating system or have privileged information. That is usually also copyrighted and often reverse engineering is strictly forbidden on the terms of use (it's software again)

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

Reverse engineering is legal - reverse engineering a console is entirely legal. Copying the manufacuters IP is illegal, so should be avoided.

Dumping the contents of your own cartridges falls under "Fair Use" terms, at least in the US and UK.

Downloading images from the internet is obviously illegal, I'd even say it's illegal if you own the physical cartridge, but that might be a grey area.

Nintendo have long used scare tactics to restrict emulator development, they threatened to sue the developers of N64 emulator UltraHLE but never followed through with their (empty) threat. I can understand why Nokia have withdrawn the N900 Nintendo emulators, but don't think Nintendo have a leg to stand on.

Back on topic: Hasn't this iPhone/N64 emulator been shown to be a hoax? I can't see the videos as youtube is blocked at work but I've read the kid is playing a video of an N64 game (playing on a real N64) on his iPhone and just moving his hands to match the onscreen movement.

The Mupen64/Mupen64Plus N64 emulators only support x86 right now - no ARM support.

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

Well, it wouldn't be allowed in the Extras* repo, legal or not, until Nokia verifies that it is "legal enough" to not draw another or additional points in the ongoing lawsuit from Nintendo. I suspect that function to be infinite.

Legality isn't even the issue these days so much as how much litigious risk is one willing to take, and the bigger the fish, the more appealing target it makes. Nokia should probably maintain a fairly low threshold so that they don't have to waste resources dealing with niches when they have their own bigger fish and fruits (Apple) to fry--which is what they did by taking Nintendo emus out of the official maemo repos.

So anyone is free to port the emu, but they would do so knowing it would have to live in a third-party repo.

Re: U guys see n64 on iphone 3gs?
 

You might like to check your UK contract law on that position if explicit provision is given in terms of sale. Point was also that there is a world outside of the UK/US. Will leave the thread to continue though as the point was to ask for less wild acqusations.