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geneven 2010-02-08 21:22

Re: Charging n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 516252)
it is actually charging. i just put back on my n900 and it is allready at 33% charge so even when nothing is shown the battery charges.

Why is it bad to let the battery die out? It shouldn't be bad because it can always happen.

I also dont buy 3rd party batteries. why not? because last time i had one in my n95 it became twice as big making my battery cover pop of the back of my phone. Luckily i just had to buy a new back cover. who knows what could have happend if it was in my phone a few hours longer.

3rd party batteries are absolutely not safe! there is a reason that they are cheap! you can count on that!

It appears that many of the 3rd party batteries you get these days are from the same factories that make the real ones.

Congratulations; you are the first person to report a significant 3rd party battery problem like this since this site started, that I know of.

Many people on this site are buying 3rd party batteries. I have been buying them for my tablets for years without problems. Can you promise me that if I had been buying official Nokia batteries instead I would have had no problems as well? I have personally seen more battery problems reported with Nokia batteries on this site since I joined.

It is not particularly good to let batteries die completely out like you have because some people have reported problems when doing so. You seem to be one of those people.

les_garten 2010-02-08 21:28

Re: Charging n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 516178)
Works fine for me, but then I plug it in before the battery goes flat.

You may not always have that option.

You've NEVER had a phone battery go flat?

What about a natural disaster where there is no power for a period of time. Earthquake, Blizzard, Electrical storm, Hurricane, etc, etc.

Relying on personal PERFECTION is not a viable plan IMHO.

javispedro 2010-02-08 21:53

Re: Charging n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 516168)
Another pain is to start the n900 while charging. first time you start it actually shuts down the charging process and need to start the phone another time.

This is caused by some (I guess) common 3rd party app -- mine didn't do that until after a few trips to rootsh.

geneven 2010-02-08 22:00

Re: Charging n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 516816)
You may not always have that option.

You've NEVER had a phone battery go flat?

What about a natural disaster where there is no power for a period of time. Earthquake, Blizzard, Electrical storm, Hurricane, etc, etc.

Relying on personal PERFECTION is not a viable plan IMHO.

The real problem is not in letting the battery die (in my idea of things), the problem is in trying to get it started again with zero charge.

My suggestion of having a battery at hand that is not flat deals perfectly with the natural disaster scenario. You don't have to rely on perfection; you just have to know how to swap batteries.

Hipsu 2010-02-08 22:18

Re: Charging n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 516816)
What about a natural disaster where there is no power for a period of time. Earthquake, Blizzard, Electrical storm, Hurricane, etc, etc.

you wont be using n900 that's for sure, i would just take out my sim and put it into my trusty old Nokia 6310i and make calls all day long if i wanted to:D

les_garten 2010-02-08 22:33

Re: Charging n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 516803)
It appears that many of the 3rd party batteries you get these days are from the same factories that make the real ones.

Congratulations; you are the first person to report a significant 3rd party battery problem like this since this site started, that I know of.

Many people on this site are buying 3rd party batteries. I have been buying them for my tablets for years without problems. Can you promise me that if I had been buying official Nokia batteries instead I would have had no problems as well? I have personally seen more battery problems reported with Nokia batteries on this site since I joined.

It is not particularly good to let batteries die completely out like you have because some people have reported problems when doing so. You seem to be one of those people.

I had an Apple battery in my MacBook Pro try to destroy by getting as big as a pregnant guppy after about 2 years. OEM is no guarantee.

les_garten 2010-02-08 22:34

Re: Charging n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 516870)
The real problem is not in letting the battery die (in my idea of things), the problem is in trying to get it started again with zero charge.

My suggestion of having a battery at hand that is not flat deals perfectly with the natural disaster scenario. You don't have to rely on perfection; you just have to know how to swap batteries.

You seriously suggest this as a solution? How about making the device behave correctly?

I live in South Florida, a couple years ago we didn't have electricity for 2 weeks. Guess the folks in Haiti better stay away from it also. I'll bet in DC area right now, there may be some flat N900s as well.

sygys 2010-02-09 13:15

Re: Charging n900
 
its stupid that a flat battery cant be charged with the n900. then nokia obviously did something wrong there! you can say to people yeah well dont let the battery hit zero or else you need to buy a new battery. sometimes the n900 drains the battery so fast that i didn't even mention it is emty when pulling it out of my pocket.

Second of all i allready told you that the battery is still charged but without the indicator or any sign of life from the n900. while normally the phone LED would flash.

I havent tested it though with a completely emty battery though.

@ the Wizkids out there... isn't there a way nokia can fix this problem by re-addressing a part of the power directly to the phone. so that it atleast starts up when battery is totally emty? (like a laptop can be used without a battery) Or is this all hardware doing this function

TA-t3 2010-02-09 13:33

Re: Charging n900
 
The N900 can charge a completely flat battery, it just takes a while to get started. It really does, I have verified this.

What it can't do is recharge a battery (flat or otherwise) if the firmware is messed up, i.e. if it needs a reflash - at least if it needs a cold reflash, as I experienced.

michalurban 2010-03-31 09:14

Another charging question
 
Another charging question - I put my N900 (turned off because of insufficient battery power) on the charger - after a few minutes, green light goes on ... charging stops ... I take the phone off the charger and it starts yelling "battery low" ... WTF I say. BTW It was allright the whole month I have this thing ... Do you think a flash could help?


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