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Re: Industrial Design (some future considerations for Nokia)

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Originally Posted by sondjata (Post 556049)

people actually lay these things down flat to type?

I totally use it like a laptop when I have serious typing to do.

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Originally Posted by tissot (Post 556016)

Camera part not being flat is something that i'am afraid wont be going anywhere.
People want slimm phones and at least here in Europe the megapixels still sell. I would anyways take the lens cover rather than flat back.

I was thinking about this as I guess I agree, so I did the maths to see what the consequenses are and well it is minuscule. Tacking the volume of the protruding camera and spreding it over the back of the phone adds less than 0.3mm.

So to reiterate i think 0.03 mm in thickness would not make the n900 any more brick like, but it would make it more clean (iphone like) and a lot more functional, edging a little closer to a computer like form function.

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I have to admit that as a former product designer I cringed at some of the design decisions made on the N900. The camera lens protrusion and usb at the wrong end are the big ones for me.

I'm sure these weren't done without some sort of reasoning, but I sure can't see it.

As for the hardware lock switch, I find myself wanting it on the left side (with device oriented in phone mode and facing me). Plenty of room, and easy to use there.

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Originally Posted by AliB (Post 556062)

I agree on most parts. However, I disagree with:

How do you figure? To me, it's in the most logical position as is. The switch you're suggesting wouldn't really make a difference when in phone mode anyway, but it would make the volume rocker awkward to use in landscape mode. Hence why the current position is more logical to me. The only difference I see for phone mode is that if you hold the phone to your left ear you can change volume with your thumb instead of your index finger (and vice versa if you hold it to your right). But it makes no sense to move the button for that - both index finger and thumb work equally well for me, and there's no way to know which ear people will use the phone with anyway. In fact, I regularly swap which ear I use while I speak.

I don't necessarily disagree, the position i described was on my Palm Centro and i found controlling the media player and phone volume practical, not that I am biased, I would just iterate inconsistency it is not acceptable for me to be pressing the one side of the rocker to increase the volume on a call and press the same side after a call decrease the volume on the media player.

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Originally Posted by AliB (Post 556062)

14) Move both the usb-jack and headphone-jack further up, in relation to lanscape mode. Presently, the cables are a bit annoying when using the keyboard.

thats a great idea it would also help the phone when fitting into many landscape phone covers.

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one thing i love though is the little bezel on the screen, it protects the screen from scratching when face down.

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I agree that the charge and sync ports should switch places. When taking video, I am often scared of dropping my phone, and it would be nice if the wrist strap eyelet was on the right side as opposed to the left.

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There are numerous ways to address the 'protruded camera area' issue... ie: you could add very thin rubber/foam pads on the edges, you can extend the protrusion areas toward the imbalanced side (Without thickening the whole case)..

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 558400)

I'm seriously thinking of adding some rubber pads. The rocking on the table top makes me nuts. Plus that's one of the elements that naysayers snicker about when I show them the device...

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 558402)

I'm seriously thinking of adding some rubber pads.

Sounds like a good idea. Although I worry they will peel off after a few weeks of inserting/removing from pockets.

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Originally Posted by pelago (Post 558563)

Sounds like a good idea. Although I worry they will peel off after a few weeks of inserting/removing from pockets.

3M make some seriously sticky ones I will see if I can fins some the right hight. as this also drives me nuts and can be a neat solution.