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attila77 2010-03-16 14:48

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
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Originally Posted by itkach (Post 569247)
Hm... I thought .install is *the* way to install. What's the alternative?

No, no, I mean't installing *extras* is bad, nothing inherently wrong with .install files.

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And Application Manager used to be able to detect duplicate repositories before (when enabled through .install), is this not so in Maemo 5?
Not sure, I ended up with a duplicate directory. The repo definitions might be slightly different that can cause this.

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It's just that I find dealing with Maemo infrastructure painful and generally unpleasant, so I avoid it. Or call me lazy :)
Hey, I don't blame you. On the other hand, if you ever change your mind, I can help you make an initial version, from there on it's fairly painless.

BTW I had some errors installing (different dependencies/Extras clash):
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/simplejson_2.0.9_armel.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/simplejson/_speedups.so', which is also in package python-simplejson

Also, just libicu takes some 13MB of rootfs space... it would really be cool to get it optified (there, another reason for using the autobuilder as it would do this for you automatically :) )

itkach 2010-03-16 15:17

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 569270)
... I ended up with a duplicate directory. The repo definitions might be slightly different that can cause this...

Probably. I'll just remove Extras from the .install.

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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 569270)
I can help you make an initial version, from there on it's fairly painless.

Thank you, maybe I'll take you up on this when I have some time :)

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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 569270)
BTW I had some errors installing (different dependencies/Extras clash):
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/simplejson_2.0.9_armel.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/simplejson/_speedups.so', which is also in package python-simplejson

I see that python-simplejson is now in extras both for Diablo and Fremantle, I'll change dependency and get rid of simplejson in aarddict's repo.

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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 569270)
Also, just libicu takes some 13MB of rootfs space... it would really be cool to get it optified (there, another reason for using the autobuilder as it would do this for you automatically :) )

Well, I didn't really package libicu, package in aarddict repo is what was once available in Extras for Chinook. I'd be happy to depend on a properly packaged version of libicu (PyICU is really what aarddict needs), but repackaging and, more importantly, maintaining libicu is not something I'm looking forward to (did I mention I'm lazy?:))

Rob1n 2010-03-16 15:40

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
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Originally Posted by itkach (Post 569314)
Well, I didn't really package libicu, package in aarddict repo is what was once available in Extras for Chinook. I'd be happy to depend on a properly packaged version of libicu (PyICU is really what aarddict needs), but repackaging and, more importantly, maintaining libicu is not something I'm looking forward to (did I mention I'm lazy?:))

There's libicu40 and libicu42 in Fremantle extras - there doesn't seem to be any python bindings for them though :(

itkach 2010-03-16 15:49

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
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Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 569354)
There's libicu40 and libicu42 in Fremantle extras - there doesn't seem to be any python bindings for them though :(

I'm looking at
http://repository.maemo.org/extras/d...armel/Packages and http://repository.maemo.org/extras/d...armel/Packages, there doesn't seem any libicu packages at all, am I looking in the wrong place?

Rob1n 2010-03-16 15:58

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
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Originally Posted by itkach (Post 569371)
I'm looking at
http://repository.maemo.org/extras/d...armel/Packages and http://repository.maemo.org/extras/d...armel/Packages, there doesn't seem any libicu packages at all, am I looking in the wrong place?

My mistake - looks like they're in extras-testing and extras-devel at the moment (http://maemo.org/packages/view/libicu42/ and http://maemo.org/packages/view/libicu40/).

REMFwhoopitydo 2010-03-16 17:32

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
thanks all, i feel this is now a positive and useful thread, consider that a meagre contribution from someone too afraid to do anything more than use extras. :)

geneven 2010-03-16 23:28

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
I have aarddict installed on my N900 and am using it happily. It gives me evil messages when I try to update it using App Mgr, but it still works fine. I don't remember well how I got it working, but I think I mainly ignored warnings and went ahead anyway. I'm like that. :)

Edit: I uninstalled aardict on my N900 and reinstalled with the install file for the N900 you mentioned. It worked, though I got a message saying it couldn't be installed. I think this is the same way I installed it before. I have a couple of dictionaries installed, so it's definitely working.

itkach 2010-03-17 04:33

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 569270)
BTW I had some errors installing (different dependencies/Extras clash):
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/simplejson_2.0.9_armel.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/simplejson/_speedups.so', which is also in package python-simplejson

I updated dependencies, aarddict now depends on python-simplejson in extras instead of simplejson from aarddict repo, also removes simplejson if it was installed.

I also updated http://aarddict.org/aarddict_maemo5.install, now it doesn't add extras.

REMFwhoopitydo 2010-03-17 11:18

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
i take it this is the right py-qt?

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/M...on2.5-qt4-doc/

attila77 2010-03-17 11:30

Re: Is Py-QT going to turn up in extras soon - so i can install useful apps like aarddict?
 
It is the right PyQt, but for what ? :) If you want aarddict, just use the install link above by itkach (you don't need to explicitly install PyQt, installing aarddict will do that for you automatically).

Just have enough rootfs space to be able to take on the grunt of Qt + libicu :)

EDIT: As for the libicu in extras-testing - as it's a generic lib it will go to extras when an app using it enters extras.


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