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RenaldoTT 2010-12-14 17:58
Re: iPhone Bluetooth
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by somedude (Post 896709)
another reason why iPhone should not be categorized as a "SmartPhone".
You ca say that again, I have one but it still can't beat the little phone I bought for $65TT lol ridiculous, I only use it for gaming at work, love my N900 for life

atilla 2010-12-14 19:09
Re: iPhone Bluetooth
 
well,thats a really trange thing which apple is doing.
and the bluetooth and flash problems are the things why i never would buy an iphone

tso 2010-12-14 22:24
Re: iPhone Bluetooth
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by atilla (Post 896781)
well,thats a really trange thing which apple is doing.
and the bluetooth and flash problems are the things why i never would buy an iphone
Actually, in USA it is more common then not. Iirc, Verizon have a history of disabling file transfer profiles (and making tethering profiles only available if the phone gets the ok from the network, related to selling the service as a business feature at a premium) via custom firmware on phones they allow onto their network.

I suspect it may be a holdover from the Ma Bell age, where the phone in a persons home was considered AT&T property. And any tampering with that phone would risk contract violation and disconnection. As such, US carriers may see the phones as extensions of their network rather then something the customer owns.

And this may partially be why Nokia is known in USA as a seller of dumbphones only. This because Nokia would not allow the carriers to tamper with the phones firmware and disable features.

Btw, i read a claim that Nokia operates with a different definition of "smartphone". To Nokia, a smartphone is one that integrate features that previously was found in separate devices. So to Nokia, even the "lowly" cameraphone is a smartphone. In contrast, HTC, Apple and others see a smartphone as something that do much the same online stuff as a desktop or laptop computer...

railroadmaster 2010-12-18 18:08
Re: iPhone Bluetooth
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by somedude (Post 896709)
another reason why iPhone should not be categorized as a "SmartPhone".
The iPhone is a smart phone because it doesn't try do to do a 1,000 functions the iPhone only has a few and the iPhone is near perfect at doing every single one of the functions it does, while a Nokia phone can do 1,000 but it is horrible a nearly every function. Get it.

tele 2010-12-18 18:56
Re: iPhone Bluetooth
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HumanPenguin (Post 572190)
Both my partners at work have recently gotten iPhones.

I have been setting them up with our google calendar and contacts etc.

As I was working on porting contacts from the old phones to the iPhones. It became clear that the iPhone is unable to connect to another phone via bluetooth. A little reading indicates this is true for any bluetooth device with a file transfer option,

Seems like a hell of a limitation to place on the phone?

Anyway fixed with ease, I just connected their old (dumb) phones to my N900 pulled all the contacts into a vcf file onto my device then imported them into google contacts to sync with the iPhone.

But crippling bluetooth in this way seems a little OTT to me?
there used to be an app called ibluetooth on iphone (cydia) this lets you connect to another phone. and isim (copy contacts to sim) in cydia
only if the iphone is jailbroken

onethreealpha 2010-12-19 00:10
Re: iPhone Bluetooth
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 899550)
The iPhone is a smart phone because it doesn't try do to do a 1,000 functions the iPhone only has a few and the iPhone is near perfect at doing every single one of the functions it does, while a Nokia phone can do 1,000 but it is horrible a nearly every function. Get it.
"A smartphone is a mobile phone that offers more advanced computing ability and connectivity than a contemporary basic feature phone."
taken from wikipedia. the source of all knowledge;)
having said that, I'd certainly draw your attention to the bit about connectivity...... and in the very first sentence too.

Suggesting that the iphone is smart phone because it does some things really well is a bit misguided don't you think?
The definition of "smart" is changing as improving technology allows us to do more and more. the smart phones of 2 years ago are seen as outdated and obsolete by todays standards, but compared to my old Motorola Teletac 200, are positively space age.
I could argue that the iphone is not a smart phone due to it's lack of true multitasking abilities and the very fact that it can't even use the most basic bluetooth protocols for file transfer without being hacked.......
If fashionable = smart then of course, that's a different matter. If having 150 different fart apps and 40% of your "apps" actually being nothing more than links to web pages or e-reader books, than the only smart bit about the device is the Apple marketing department's capacity to mislead the consumer.

maluka 2010-12-19 01:26
Re: iPhone Bluetooth
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 899698)
"A smartphone is a mobile phone that offers more advanced computing ability and connectivity than a contemporary basic feature phone."
taken from wikipedia. the source of all knowledge;)
having said that, I'd certainly draw your attention to the bit about connectivity...... and in the very first sentence too.

Suggesting that the iphone is smart phone because it does some things really well is a bit misguided don't you think?
The definition of "smart" is changing as improving technology allows us to do more and more. the smart phones of 2 years ago are seen as outdated and obsolete by todays standards, but compared to my old Motorola Teletac 200, are positively space age.
I could argue that the iphone is not a smart phone due to it's lack of true multitasking abilities and the very fact that it can't even use the most basic bluetooth protocols for file transfer without being hacked.......
If fashionable = smart then of course, that's a different matter. If having 150 different fart apps and 40% of your "apps" actually being nothing more than links to web pages or e-reader books, than the only smart bit about the device is the Apple marketing department's capacity to mislead the consumer.
What the iPhone lacks in smartphone featues, it makes up for in hype and some really great exclusive apps. iOS users don't know what they're missing because they're too busy enjoying what they have.

Symbian is still the best Smartphone OS in my opinion. Maemo is of course better than any other mobile OS at computing tasks. One can only hope that MeeGo/Qt brings the two together into an awesome new OS.

railroadmaster 2010-12-22 22:02
Re: iPhone Bluetooth
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 899698)
"A smartphone is a mobile phone that offers more advanced computing ability and connectivity than a contemporary basic feature phone."
taken from wikipedia. the source of all knowledge;)
having said that, I'd certainly draw your attention to the bit about connectivity...... and in the very first sentence too.

Suggesting that the iphone is smart phone because it does some things really well is a bit misguided don't you think?
The definition of "smart" is changing as improving technology allows us to do more and more. the smart phones of 2 years ago are seen as outdated and obsolete by todays standards, but compared to my old Motorola Teletac 200, are positively space age.
I could argue that the iphone is not a smart phone due to it's lack of true multitasking abilities and the very fact that it can't even use the most basic bluetooth protocols for file transfer without being hacked.......
If fashionable = smart then of course, that's a different matter. If having 150 different fart apps and 40% of your "apps" actually being nothing more than links to web pages or e-reader books, than the only smart bit about the device is the Apple marketing department's capacity to mislead the consumer.
I think the iPhone should be classified as a a advanced feature phone ;). Anyways I've never considered the idevices true mobile computer, yet everyone thinks there so amazingly advanced, but because of the fact that they are incredibly restrictive and don't allow open development, have a proprietary port, don't allow choice of carrier (at least in the United States), or memory and battery expandability, the iOs devices should be classified as appliances not mobile computers.


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