Re: The great offline issue
 

"Ruby: The left-handed Python". I like that!

No, just kidding. I was just surprised to see someone describing Python as non-intuitive, as my five-year romance with Python has been nothing but joy. And I admit I've only had minor exposure to Ruby.

Re: The great offline issue
 

it would be great if someone portded wwwoffled proxy to
770/800, so that you could browse offline all pages visited online from the cache.

Re: The great offline issue
 

Roger, you do want to sync, you just don't want to sync with a master PC. Neither do I, I want to sync with the network - however you do want to sync:

The point we need to make (and we agree on) is that there are valid use cases for these "Internet" Tablets without an Internet connection.

Cheers,

Andrew

Re: The great offline issue
 

It's been a long time since I tried Plucker, but I'm certain that I didn't use a Plucker GUI - there was a command line utility that did it all, after I had set up an initial .html file which described what I wanted Plucker to download.
A command line version of Plucker should hopefully not be difficult to get running on the N800/770, unlike a wxwindows version.

(As for Python, it's not for me either. I stopped using position-dependent code with Fortran 66, and I'm not going back - but there are other reasons too. Ruby I could do, I think. But I really need Perl! :))

>The point we need to make (and we agree on) is that there are valid use cases for these "Internet" Tablets without an Internet connection.

Indeed!

Re: The great offline issue
 

WOW. I have never heard anyone say that in my life. I have found python to be the easiest language that I have ever used.

Re: The great offline issue
 

I actually just received my first 2 Python books from Amazon last week. As an old VB (and Pascal, and Lisp) programmer, I'm not too keen on the odd syntax (looks too much like C at first glance, which I despise)... but I intend to swallow hard, grit my teeth and teach myself anyway. Prayers appreciated.

Re: The great offline issue
 

Even though the syntax is different, Python is a lot like Scheme. Once you get past the syntax, you'll be fine. If you want, think of the tab key as open-paren :)

Re: The great offline issue
 

Right now it is a terminal application, so it's not designed for either =) I'm planning to fit it really tightly to the maemo platform, as that is it's main intended use. But hopefully I can program it in such a modular way that people can use it on their desktops too.

Right now the main problem is displaying HTML in a hildon gui programmed with Python. There's libgtkhtml, but no python bindings. And I'm not going to redo this in C. In the terminal, I just format the html through links(1).

And fetching the www-pages for offline reading is an interesting idea as well. But it doesn't work really well for, say, Slashdot, where the real content isn't pointed to via the feed.

When it's ready, it can be found at http://paul.totterman.name/maemo.html

BR,
Paul Tötterman

Re: The great offline issue
 

The Nokia is a powerful device with a network connection. I would like to be able to run an app from the device itself to have it grab a bunch of web pages to an offline directory. That way I sync what I want to read offline whenever I happen to have a connection.

There is great web site slurping tool called pavuk that I've used in the past. It can take a url and copy down the whole page to an offline directory, changing image paths, etc, so the whole page can be read offline. It is very configurable and intelligent and includes both command line and X windows based modes.

I downloaded a copy into a Maemo Sandbox, and it compiles and runs without a hitch, even the X version. While this could probably be put onto a Nokia as is, some work could be done to make this a Hildon app. I have never attempted this before, nor have I touched C in a few years, but it would make a cool project. It is also a very powerful program, and could probably use a simple mode that handles most sites well.

http://pavuk.sourceforge.net/

The Daily Pluck (what your looking for.)
 

Hi, I wrote a distiller that pulls down content (rss feeds + weather + news sites) and distils it into pdb format.

You can get it at http://simonvc.googlepages.com/thedailypluck

I heard it has some problems with the N800 (but works on my N770)

Good Luck
Simon