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torres76 2010-03-24 08:10

Re: Clueless
 
just get it !!!!! no questions all those android phones out there are just poor childrens toys.

bartekxyz 2010-03-24 17:25

Re: Clueless
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torres76 (Post 579872)
just get it !!!!! no questions all those android phones out there are just poor childrens toys.

Android? No, never :p It's overrated. Damn, I hate making decisions.

ysss 2010-03-24 17:35

Re: Clueless
 
If you will only buy this with the expectation that it will get MeeGo which is completely and officially supported by Nokia (ie: you will get an official MeeGo flashable firmware from nokia.com), then don't. Because afaik it's still not officially confirmed at this point by Nokia.

bartekxyz 2010-03-24 21:14

Re: Clueless
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 580645)
If you will only buy this with the expectation that it will get MeeGo which is completely and officially supported by Nokia (ie: you will get an official MeeGo flashable firmware from nokia.com), then don't. Because afaik it's still not officially confirmed at this point by Nokia.

It's not that I want MeeGo and don't like Maemo 5 or something. It's just that I want product supported by manufacturer.

maxximuscool 2010-03-24 21:18

Re: Clueless
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 581012)
It's not that I want MeeGo and don't like Maemo 5 or something. It's just that I want product supported by manufacturer.

Ask yourself, how keen are you toward Linux computer? How much knowledge do you have about Linux OS? Do you willingly want to learn how to use and operate a Linux?

If you answer, Yes to all of them then you are ready to get N900, otherwise you going to run into problems and disappointment.

That's my advise for you.

geneven 2010-03-24 21:29

Re: Clueless
 
I just don't find that much Linux-specific knowledge to be necessary.

Almost always, the most sophisticated knowledge I need is:

Open command line. (I'm familiar with this from DOS and Windows.)

Type in the following command. (I taught myself typing.)

Don't make typos.

Have patience. (I've needed patience for every computer I've ever had.)

Read the available documentation (In the DOS days, we called it rtfm.)

There might be a few other tricks, but very few.

And usually, you DON'T need the above. You just need to learn to use the environment you're in -- little or nothing to do with Linux.

bartekxyz 2010-03-24 21:36

Re: Clueless
 
I'm an old Amiga fanboy so I know something about going deep into operating system ;) Using Linux is an easy cake comparing to Amiga Workbench where I had to know every single task running and every single line of boot sequence:)

ndi 2010-03-24 21:38

Re: Clueless
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 581012)
It's not that I want MeeGo and don't like Maemo 5 or something. It's just that I want product supported by manufacturer.

Oh I've been there, overthinking.

Let me help you the way I helped myself:

The N900 has its goods and its bads, as do all other phones. Make a list of phones you like. Cut out the dealbreakers. Cut out the out-of-range devices (too large, too expensive, too IPhone).

If you are left with more than two, max three, you're doing it wrong. Cut more.

By now you'd have some two (see? it works.). Let me impart some truth:

* No matter what you choose, it'll have drawbacks
* No matter what you choose, you will grow to like its strengths
* No matter what you choose, fixes will come, bugs will be patched, apps will grow
* No matter what you choose, that one thing that bugs you to no end will come later or never.

See the pattern? Grass is always greener and all that jab (buyer remorse, it's in the book). You're MUCH better off buying a phone you LIKE than getting that last atom in the deal, last cent, last feature because with smart phones these things change. Get what you like. Get the sexy curve, get the geeky keyboard, whatever.

I'm sure by now one looks a lot better than the other, but it's missing <x>. You'll have to live with it. Would you rather have <x> but always have to look at it wishing it was smaller/more beautiful?

For me it was simple. HD2 didn't have the hardware. Also, Nokia has a service center "near me" and a nice stand with people with bugs in devices.

With due respect to other people in this thread, Linux has nothing to do with it unless you geek it out. It has an app store, a list of free apps, a menu. You could have this phone for years and not know what it has under the hood. Few people know how many valves in their engine and they drive just fine.

Go for it.

CrashandDie 2010-03-25 06:03

Re: Clueless
 
RTFM long predates DOS.

http://books.google.com/books?id=AmS...C&printsec=toc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM#Use_and_overuse

R.Habrat 2010-03-26 15:10

Re: Clueless
 
Be prepared, Bartek, for serious drawbacks. Currently the N900 is still nice toy or gadget, it is a dream device for people loving to fiddle with OS innards, but no one can responsibly call it business tool. When you lose an incoming call because of dark screen with no button to answer (just a real example), you will know what I am talking about.


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