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wmarone 2010-03-25 17:47

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crail (Post 582140)
i dont see the issue in changing the access point when you send/receive an mms. it tekes me about 3.2 seconds lol

Well if you're like me and have persistent connections going (IRC, streaming audio) and suddenly your phone breaks all connections to fetch something sent using an obsolete protocol, it's annoying.

Thankfully no one sends me MMS messages (which only exist for cellphones,) preferring to post on Facebook or send them via e-mail.

Venemo 2010-03-25 17:48

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
I don't understand why you care.
I sent maybe 2 MMSs in my entire life. (The first was a test, and the second one didn't arrive to my friend...)

So, I don't care about it on the N900.

moerderameise 2010-03-25 17:56

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Why no MMS? I can tell you what a Nokia worker said to me when i asked him about this:
Its because the N900 should "talk" to developers and IT cracks, and not to the "normal user" thats why they wheren't interested in MMS and OVI Maps will also take more time, maybe it will never be released for the N900 for the same reason. Thats what he told me.

Laughing Man 2010-03-25 17:59

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Besides what Kathy said, there is also no way to integrate MMS within conversations, conversation seems like it's only capable of receiving and sending text.

RevdKathy 2010-03-25 18:08

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 582170)
Besides what Kathy said, there is also no way to integrate MMS within conversations, conversation seems like it's only capable of receiving and sending text.

I'm not sure whether that's a "Can't be done" or a "Hasn't been done yet". You'd need to ask Frals. :)

SirMuttley 2010-03-25 18:13

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 582101)
not a troll or basher, i love my N900, but just having a hard time wrapping my brain around how such a basic feature could be omitted phone. i just dont get it. yeah i know its not 'a phone', yadda yadda.

It might be a basic feature of a phone, but really is it that widely used? In my life I've sent only one mms ever and received precisely zero.

These days why would I use it when it is so limited compared to other methods of sharing pictures or video?

I really for the life of me don't understand why people make such a big deal out of MMS. Maybe I'm sheltered and missing out on something big, but I just don't see the point and don't know anyone else who does.

I'd rather the time was spent on new technology rather than old.

crail 2010-03-25 18:18

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 582151)
Well if you're like me and have persistent connections going (IRC, streaming audio) and suddenly your phone breaks all connections to fetch something sent using an obsolete protocol, it's annoying.

Thankfully no one sends me MMS messages (which only exist for cellphones,) preferring to post on Facebook or send them via e-mail.

wait until youve stopped streaming etc, then fetch. i still dont see the issue

gobuki 2010-03-25 18:20

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
One reason i guess was that the ratio of usefulness to complexity of an MSS app was far worse than many other things that deserved improvement/implementation. Plus i think there aren't that many users who want MMS.

And because of limited resources they had to leave something out.

So the question would be why did they have or still have limited resources.

Well, time is limited and as a software developer myself i know that it doesn't always help to throw more money on the issue. Too many cooks spoil the broth, you know.

IMHO it was a very good decision. I don't use MMS for the high costs. I would feel betrayed. And you should too. Let me give you an example (based on SMS, but MMS is comarable in that matter).

Lets assume a price per SMS of 9ct (Euro).
And lets further assume a price of 25ct for 1Mb internet traffic.

Now an SMS contains 140bytes (160 7bit characters). One megabyte is
1024 * 1024 bytes = 1048510 bytes. That means you would have to send 7490 SMS to transfer 1Mb, which would cost you a whopping 674,10 Euros. Compared to 25ct on the internet. So SMS traffic is roughly 2.600 times more pricey than internet traffic.
Now how do you feel about that? Is it fair? Or are you pissed off?


Edit: The prices i took are the lowest i found in germany.

nosa101 2010-03-25 18:32

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Conversations is supposed to be IMish, right?

How about fMMS being integrated as a plugin for conversations? The same way picture sharing is integrated in most IM things.

I don't use MMS so it's not really a big deal

rohanhole 2010-03-25 18:41

Re: really, why no MMS?
 
Exactly , MMS is failed technology ... because its not compatible with operators across , i.e. MMS from one provider can not be sent to different. You will get a web link to view that mms .

i left mms long time back .. lets say 3 years before .

push mail is the best alternative to mms. or social sharing. mms sum times can be useful .. but again has limitation over type of file and size , so its better to use social sharing site just like www.pixelpipe.com .

i am not against mms totally , but recently no any operators in India promoting mms via advertise , there might be less statistics or less revenue.


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