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TA-t3 2007-03-13 13:37

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
But KDE.. this must mean that QT has been ported then? I wasn't aware of that.

Karel Jansens 2007-03-13 13:48

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
Xscribble (http://www.handhelds.org/projects/xscribble.html) is a Grafitti-lookalike for Linux. It works but, being window-based, its user-friendliness is rather low on the scales.

There's also wayV (http://www.stressbunny.com/wayv/) which is kinda cool because it doesn't need a dedicated window,
there was KGesture, but that hasn't been ported to KDE3 (http://www.botch.com/~mpilone/projects/kgesture.php), so unless penguinbait wants to port KDE2, you're SOL there.
Libstroke (http://www.etla.net/libstroke/) is another one I remember, but it too seems to be non-maintained.

Mind you, these are all character recognizers (which arguably the N800's native stroke recognizer is also), not handwriting recognizers, of which Linux has the overwhelming number of 0 (zero).

Does anybody want to join me in an email-nagging campaign (again!) to PhatWare (http://www.phatware.com/) to get them to port Calligrapher (http://www.phatware.com/calligrapher/index.html#wa) or, preferrably, PenOffice (http://www.phatware.com/penoffice/index.html) to Linux? Obviously either with a source code release, or with versions for different CPU architectures (I have an old tablet pc that would be very happy to run Linux). I'll tell you up front that the odds for success are discouraging, but hey! email is cheap, right?

penguinbait 2007-03-13 14:05

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
qt and kde libs compile without changes. Just straight compile. kdebase, I had to hack the makefile to skip joystick, but otherwise compiled great. Look this is real. (As stated by others, yes its VNC connected to the n800) BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I think my reputation here, should tell you that I am not full of &$^%#, well mostly ;) I will post some video when I get some time. It was about 600MB but there is a lot of source mixed in there, I have not gotten kdepim to compile completely yet, that what I am working on next. Also KDE tries to find all the apps, and does, but errors, because it does not understand the hildon, in the menu entries. It does not load its own applications in the menu, at this point, but all the apps work.

Also yes, you can do full screen in konqurer and remove the toolbars, I was in a hurry to sleep when I posted this last night. Also the kde panel also folds away quite niceley. Also kshortcut, allows you to set the harware keys to shortcuts, and they can all be different for each application, what a novel idea.


Aflegg, no offense, nothing makes me appreciate the hildon interface, its an alright menu launcher, and toolbar? And dont get me wrong the development that has been put into it to makes it nice. They have done a wonderful job. But its not really hildon that is the issue. Matchbox is the problem, I want a windowed display. I have great vision, I can read really tiny fonts, and I can make any interface I want on this thing, thats just awesome... And one last thing, this is no hack, just straight compile, it might be a hack by the time I make it useable though.


I think we should start a KDE build team, and do this right.

ascherjim 2007-03-13 14:24

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
Penguinbait: Does this mean that you're abandoning any further development of OPENBOX-ROX? And 770 users?

penguinbait 2007-03-13 14:35

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ascherjim (Post 38893)
Penguinbait: Does this mean that you're abandoning any further development of OPENBOX-ROX? And 770 users?

No it does not, OPENBOX-ROX is great, I like it anyway, and it totals about 100MB. (and thats mostly other software) KDE will be much larger, probably 500MB. I have setup openbox, blackbox, matchbox, fluxbox, window maker, afterstep, gnome, kde. So far ROX seems to be the best desktop environemt I can make, and its easily configurable/hackable, although WindowMaker and Afterstep are also nice. KDE is running really nicely though, is it superfast? like openbox and rox, nope, it is slower that hildon?, nope its about the same.

aleksandyr 2007-03-13 14:36

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
penguinbait: if you've had QT luck, can you get me armel packages of QT/Embedded? (Ideally, scratchbox-i386 packages as well.)

Trust me when I say the results -might- be surprising. ;)

maxilogan 2007-03-13 14:52

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
I'm sorry i fthis is off-topic on this thread, but will ROX run on the 770? And what about afterstep / window maker?

I know the N800 has pretty much horsepower more than the 770, so I guess there could be some problem (apart from the space, but hey! I finally got a 2gig card!) running it on the 770... :(

Omar

penguinbait 2007-03-13 14:55

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
If you want the copies I have of the QT libs, send me an PM and I will send you a link, it might be a several days before I can zip it up for you and give you the link though.

However if you have scratchbox already, just download qt-x11-free-3.3.7.tar.gz. Follow the insctructions, you can be setup and compiled in about 2 hours, another hour for kdelibs if you need them.

Note this is not the embedded version, the QT embedded version does not use X, it has its own display server. I chose not to compile the embedded for several reasons, number one, having to setup the display properly, when it already is working, and more importantly, I want to be able to compile all sorts of software, and X is kind important, I dont want to be in the matchbox/hildon boat all over again.

penguinbait 2007-03-13 14:59

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxilogan (Post 38900)
I'm sorry i fthis is off-topic on this thread, but will ROX run on the 770? And what about afterstep / window maker?

I know the N800 has pretty much horsepower more than the 770, so I guess there could be some problem (apart from the space, but hey! I finally got a 2gig card!) running it on the 770... :(

Omar

The first two tarballs I have posted work on the 770, the latest openbox seems to not be working on the 770, but I have not been given enough to go on by the community to figure out why it is not working, I have no 770 to test with sorry....

So again ROX on Window Maker will run and has been posted, Window Maker, also run without ROX and has been posted. Afterstep has not been posted anywhere and I do not know if it would run on the 770? I have afterstep if anyone wants to play, but it is just tarball with no menus or setup by me in anyway, so you would be on your own.

jnack95 2007-03-13 15:45

Re: KDE Anyone ?
 
Anyone tried compiling Enlightenment v.17? I tried a while ago and ran into compile errors with the touch screen tslib (can't remember which library though). Maybe I could have hacked the makefile and got it to compile? I think it's memory footprint would be much smaller than KDE and it's already been used on the Zaurus. Anyway...I plan to try eventually.


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