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devu 2010-05-11 11:09

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
I really hope we remember the mistakes from the past. And will never ever let to comes to power one solution only.

Even if you are not flash lover it's only tool to keep balance on this market.
In all this Open Sourceness there is one danger. If you make your technology completely transparent and free doesn't count on tech battle. Corporation will always amaze you by something else that will keep eye on it. on top of this open source invention.

If I can predict/bet the future of Flash this technology will be more and more open to survive. Now we have next step and CS5 let you keep source files as xml rather than .fla file... hmm.

At least as long as there is competition it's good for all of us. We shouldn't let to die anybody, keep them alive! :)

ysss 2010-05-11 11:13

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
When all's said and done, the best thing you can do is to prove them wrong. Make something cool and worthwhile that'll make the rest of the world want N900/Maemo/MeeGo. Otherwise it'll still be a small island with limited inhabitants.

gerbick 2010-05-11 11:18

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyr0ck (Post 653168)
did they? i thought they were the ones still using it on most of their machines?

They forced others to pay for a licensing fee to use the term that they created "Firewire" that was, in some cases prohibitively expensive or forced folks to use confusing terms like iLink or the base ISO approved name of IEEE1394.

They dropped that fee too late after USB had gained too much momentum, they didn't assist with folks who wanted to create more Firewire based deployments. And above all, when they removed it from iTunes sync for iPhone, iPod (classic) and iPod touch, they took it out of view of their own commercial offerings. Also, the slow removal of it from their own products signals a death of their own product, Firewire.

Simply stated, they created it, tried to milk it, Intel came along with USB, it got faster with USB2, they countered with the (superior in my view) Firewire800, confused the plugs for people (even moreso than USB micro, mini, A, B that USB offers) and ultimately pulled it from their own machines... from iPhone, iPod, iPod Touch to Mac Air to some MacBooks not having it.

If that's not killing it, I don't know what is.

devu 2010-05-11 11:27

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
To addition to this discussion watch this

And compare to Jobs speech these days.

I prefer to stick to Kevin Lynch vision of future.

Odeh 2010-05-11 11:28

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harp (Post 653161)
I love my stylus.

i love my stylus too

volt 2010-05-11 11:49

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
I love all my styluses. I don't think Wacom appreciates the rumors of the dead stylus.

andyr0ck 2010-05-12 15:21

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 653191)
They forced others to pay for a licensing fee to use the term that they created "Firewire" that was, in some cases prohibitively expensive or forced folks to use confusing terms like iLink or the base ISO approved name of IEEE1394.

They dropped that fee too late after USB had gained too much momentum, they didn't assist with folks who wanted to create more Firewire based deployments. And above all, when they removed it from iTunes sync for iPhone, iPod (classic) and iPod touch, they took it out of view of their own commercial offerings. Also, the slow removal of it from their own products signals a death of their own product, Firewire.

Simply stated, they created it, tried to milk it, Intel came along with USB, it got faster with USB2, they countered with the (superior in my view) Firewire800, confused the plugs for people (even moreso than USB micro, mini, A, B that USB offers) and ultimately pulled it from their own machines... from iPhone, iPod, iPod Touch to Mac Air to some MacBooks not having it.

If that's not killing it, I don't know what is.

yeah, fair points. from a business point of view, they didn't drive its adoption, did they? :-) pretty damn stupid as it's such a superior tech to USB IMO. wasn't USB2 championed by Intel also? another nail in the coffin, i imagine.

DarkPand0r 2010-05-12 15:52

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 653240)
I love all my styluses. I don't think Wacom appreciates the rumors of the dead stylus.

I <3 Wacom

sachin007 2010-05-12 16:23

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 653186)
When all's said and done, the best thing you can do is to prove them wrong. Make something cool and worthwhile that'll make the rest of the world want N900/Maemo/MeeGo. Otherwise it'll still be a small island with limited inhabitants.

Wait till meego hits a variety of devices.... Then i am sure you will see a very good competitor to android and iphone os.

tso 2010-05-13 16:56

Re: Steve Jobs says "Apple killed the Stylus - Adobe Flash is Next!"
 
if that ever happens. Intel have been working on some variant of moblin for years now with few actual products using it.

its almost like they are holding it over microsofts head saying "provide cheap windows for low power devices, or else".


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